League Cup 2024/25

[TONofmemories]

13 minutes ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

Me too, but I still booed. Make no mistake, the missus and cats were left in no doubt about my feelings.

Cats are vulgar things. 

[Jamie_M]

https://x.com/Morton_FC/status/1813558587165159840?t=fCDNyQ8wfl1DzIPL6ur8oQ&s=19

[Scott]

There’s been an undercurrent of wee bellends appearing at our games over the past couple of years. All for the drums etc, but there’s a few folk damaging their good work and reputation with behaviour I’ve seen. 

[Ferguson]

The wee guys at the Sinclair Street End taking the piss out of the keeper was quite funny but that video that's circulating is a disgrace.

[TONofmemories]

17 minutes ago, Scott said:

There’s been an undercurrent of wee bellends appearing at our games over the past couple of years. All for the drums etc, but there’s a few folk damaging their good work and reputation with behaviour I’ve seen. 

Some of the stuff shouted on Saturday was toe curling stuff. Knives out already it felt like. 

[SpoonTon]

The behaviour of the wee boys was embarrassing. And anyone trying to defend them are embarrassing themselves as well. They have a completely lack of awareness of what is and isn't acceptable. Maybe not surprising given how young some of them are but the club can't afford to have them running about behaving the way they were. 

[Alibi]

If they're just wee boys as opposed to teenagers, it would probably be possible to engage with them and impress upon them that what they are doing is not acceptable.  They need to learn a lesson and assuming nobody has actually been harmed by their antics, involving the police is maybe not the best idea.  As Spoonton says above,they have a lack of awareness of what is and isn't acceptable.  At their age, there is still time to give them some guidance on that.  If they reach their teens without learning how to behave in public, we'll end up having continuing bother with folk throwing stuff from the back of the cowshed as has been reported several times over the least season or two.  The much bigger person who threw the ball away to stop the Brechin keeper taking a goal kick wasn't exactly setting a good example and as a punishment should be made to watch our next home game.

[LargsTON]

1 hour ago, Ferguson said:

The wee guys at the Sinclair Street End taking the piss out of the keeper was quite funny but that video that's circulating is a disgrace.

What video?

[Greacen2000]

13 minutes ago, LargsTON said:

What video?

wee guy (looks about 10) in the WDE threw a drink and it hit a steward.  If you want to see it then its only 2 or 3 clicks away from the twitter link Jamie posted above but I won't post a direct link to it as (unacceptable as the behaviour was), I don't think its cool to share videos of a child who is probably already going to learn a very hard lesson as a result of this.  

[Mr.Blue]

36 minutes ago, Alibi said:

If they're just wee boys as opposed to teenagers, it would probably be possible to engage with them and impress upon them that what they are doing is not acceptable.  They need to learn a lesson and assuming nobody has actually been harmed by their antics, involving the police is maybe not the best idea.  As Spoonton says above,they have a lack of awareness of what is and isn't acceptable.  At their age, there is still time to give them some guidance on that.  If they reach their teens without learning how to behave in public, we'll end up having continuing bother with folk throwing stuff from the back of the cowshed as has been reported several times over the least season or two.  The much bigger person who threw the ball away to stop the Brechin keeper taking a goal kick wasn't exactly setting a good example and as a punishment should be made to watch our next home game.

The "adults" that were encouraging the kids and joining in are just as bad. The guy who made the keeper come up to him and then threw the ball was being a fanny and playing upto his mates and the weans. Cringeworthy stuff.

[BigHogTon]

Think this whole thing has been blown a wee bit out of proportions, granted I’m not seeing these boys every week as I’m in the stand side so don’t see the extent of the issues. Should be more focused on someone filming and uploading a child to social media to get mobbed.

[Hands of Cowan]

I went over to SS End for the last 5 minutes of the match last night. The wee guy shown in the video seemed to be the ringleader of a small group of lads looking to wind people up. I saw him approach a steward asking what would happen if he jumped the wall onto the pitch after the final whistle. The steward told the group that they would face bans from every ground in Scotland if caught and prosecuted.

Didn't seem to phase this lad in particular and he actually got more exited to carry out the pitch invasion. Wee cogs in his head were spinning.

As @Alibi said earlier, maybe these lads can be given guidance on behaviour at football matches before things get out of hand.

The ball boy incident was funny but the keeper should have handled himself and the situation a lot better. The banter is part of a being a "professional" footballer. His reaction caused the adults to get involved and that's where the banter ended for the rest of the match.

Sad to say but it was one of the highlights of the whole game TBH

 

[LargsTON]

Another issue last night although I only had my daughters word for it is that the female toilet behind the cowshed was locked.  I had to take my 11 year old around to the main stand to use the one there.  The first steward wasn't sure if he could grant us access and although it was eventually resolved its a poor show not having toilet facilities available for an 11 year old girl.  I'm not irate or anything so don't feel the need to complain cos I'm sure this post will be seen by the relevant people.

[Guest capitanus]

44 minutes ago, LargsTON said:

Another issue last night although I only had my daughters word for it is that the female toilet behind the cowshed was locked.  I had to take my 11 year old around to the main stand to use the one there.  The first steward wasn't sure if he could grant us access and although it was eventually resolved its a poor show not having toilet facilities available for an 11 year old girl.  I'm not irate or anything so don't feel the need to complain cos I'm sure this post will be seen by the relevant people.

Surely it shouldn't be a big issue to open the gate and let you and your daughter through to the main stand.  A wee bit of common sense should prevail in instances like this.

[AyrshireTon]

The first half last night resembled most of the games in the Euros - lots of passing about (especially at the back) with no end product.

We improved (a bit) after the subs and had a few hilarious misses. Much improvement needed or we’ll struggle to get points this season. A decent opposition would have been 2 or 3 up at the break last night.
 

[Mr.Blue]

3 hours ago, BigHogTon said:

Think this whole thing has been blown a wee bit out of proportions, granted I’m not seeing these boys every week as I’m in the stand side so don’t see the extent of the issues. Should be more focused on someone filming and uploading a child to social media to get mobbed.

You're wrong. It's not been blown out of proportion at all.

[Toby]

2 hours ago, BigHogTon said:

Think this whole thing has been blown a wee bit out of proportions, granted I’m not seeing these boys every week as I’m in the stand side so don’t see the extent of the issues. Should be more focused on someone filming and uploading a child to social media to get mobbed.

I think the point about filming it and putting it on social media is a very good one. Who gained from that? The steward? The alleged perpetrator? Morton? The viewer?

Or was the beneficiary of it the boy who produced the vlog and got loads of interactions for his shitey YouTube channel, incidentally a Rangers fan from Greenock who also tags onto Morton from time to time? A vlogger with less clout than fucking Blair McNally ffs.

But that’s not the main point of the issue with the kids of course. Behaviour like that can’t be condoned. It was dreadful and the boy(s) have to take responsibility for their actions. But let’s not kid ourselves- what happened last night was a culmination of a number of issues that have never been properly addressed.

We’ve complained for years about under 16s not being allowed in without an adult, and that’s something the club have never properly addressed. They know adults will let them come in with them and haven’t acted to find a solution that suits everyone.

We’ve complained about the spitting and throwing of food in the Cowshed- it was never properly dealt with, resulting in adults losing their temper and risking arrest themselves before being separated by other fans.

We’ve complained about the stewarding policy, and particularly the behaviour of the head steward ad nauseam for years now. Nothing’s been done about her, and as the leader of her team, their behaviours will naturally mirror hers. That’s not to say the poor lad that suffered last night was out of order, but he was the one in the firing line as a long period of tension between the two parties came to a head. If you treat kids like brats, that’s exactly how they’ll behave.

We’ve heard examples of easier targets being picked on for minor indiscretions- such as Ronnie for allowing his grandson to sit on a crush barrier, or my Dundee United supporting pal turning up late due to a family emergency and getting knocked back, while pyro and carry outs (neither of which I object to, though I don’t indulge inside the ground) are prevalent in the Cowshed. A steward walked into the shed last night at half time, picked up an empty half bottle, looked at the small group in the area and walked away, never to return. Why not confront adults when they do wrong?

None of this excuses the behaviour seen in that video, but it’s merely the tip of the iceberg with Morton and their young support. I note Edinburgh City had to take pretty drastic action with their kids after their friendly with Broxburn was abandoned due to their behaviour- we may be at the stage that Morton have to make Team Ton compulsory to gain entry into the games, but with the incentive of the membership paying for itself in entry, in order that the club have all their personal details and those of their parents. But let’s not kid ourselves- Morton and their security partners also need to look in the mirror here.

While the matter has to be dealt with, one thing I do expect is that appropriate sanctions will be enforced, rather than reacting to a baying mob demanding a child is banned for life, having experienced their reaction to similar incidents as a witness a couple of years ago. And I hope a thorough investigation is going into the allegations made by a Brechin fan last night that a steward suggested Lemar Reynolds be paid “in fruit” for his efforts.

[TRVMP]

Team 'Ton being mandatory to get in is an excellent idea. It's a win-win situation.

[good guy]

15 hours ago, LargsTON said:

Another issue last night although I only had my daughters word for it is that the female toilet behind the cowshed was locked.  I had to take my 11 year old around to the main stand to use the one there.  The first steward wasn't sure if he could grant us access and although it was eventually resolved its a poor show not having toilet facilities available for an 11 year old girl.  I'm not irate or anything so don't feel the need to complain cos I'm sure this post will be seen by the relevant people.

Female toilet was open when my 8 year old went before game and at half time.

[vikingTON]

Our next game on Saturday will likely require an ability to play quickly on the break - at least in some stages of the game - which does not seem beyond the current squad on paper.

If we continue to play glacial pace Johanssonball then serious questions will have to be asked about what exactly is to be achieved by this 'new playing style'.