Popular Post vikingTON Posted September 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jamie_M said: Take some turnaround for it to be anything other than done come May. Well the onus is now well and truly on Lyon to do so, by tearing up a league he should be too good for. While we don't know if there are any personal issues, based on the park alone he's got nobody else to blame for his career reaching this crossroads. He's had the slightest amount of competition in central midfield I've ever seen at this level, and yet still hasn't made a starting spot his own. Imrie didn't progress in his career as some academy product dauphin figure and I'd expect him to demand results from the players who are sent out to lower levels. If they do then there's no reason why they can't come back into the fold - playing at League Two wasn't an obstacle to Strapp breaking into the team. 7 The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Good luck to Garrity, that's a fair enough move and I certainly wouldn't write him off for going out on loan again - Strapp also had a second loan spell to League Two before establishing himself in the first team here. With Dumbarton flying so far this season as well it's probably a good place for a winger to go, he can slot into a winning team and he hopefully won't struggle for gametime when they've been playing Kalvin Orsi every week. Lyon going has to mean another midfielder is coming in today so we're not short for tomorrow. King and McGrattan are now our only cover there with King also currently being first choice left back. On the decision to loan him out in general, I reckon at this stage in their careers McGrattan needs the guaranteed game time far more than Lyon does with Lyon already having 100 games under his belt so I'd have preferred to see McGrattan go, while Lyon has played a variety of midfield roles and McGrattan appears to be strictly a playmaker. It's undeniable though that Lyon wasn't close to good enough in his starts this season, and with Imrie explicitly saying he wants him to come back "fitter and stronger" he clearly still has an issue with him there. On ability alone he should absolutely piss League Two, but if he doesn't do that then come back and fight for a place in January it doesn't bode well for his career. 1 Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesTon Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Surprised by this and probably means the end for Lyon at Morton. He's a better player than Blues and McGrattan so I'm disappointed to see him leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Busby's Moustache Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Signings incoming ... I feel it in my waters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Being only a few injuries away from struggling to put a team out, you've got to assume that signings are incoming. The moves make sense for the players right now. Something's not right between Lyon and Imrie, and Garrity had hardly played. We need to add some quality which Imrie trusts to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossMcC1874 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Not surprised by Garrity as I think he needs more game time and clearly isn't going to get much here. The Lyons one surprises me I'm not his biggest fan but I think he is clearly better than league two so shocked he has dropped that far down. He clearly has an attitude problem and Imrie doesn't fancy him which is fine by me because I don't think he has really shown anything in the past year or so to justify him staying. It surely must mean singings incoming today I hope and please god one of them a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, TONofmemories said: Nor did the other 4 or 5 managers he's played under and failed to impress.. I think that's harsh given he's getting contracts. They obviously see something in him but can't get the best out of him consistently so there's obviously something wrong there. Hopefully the loan is a bit of a warning for him and he manages to turn it around. There's a good player in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Madton Posted September 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2022 48 minutes ago, DumfriesTon said: Surprised by this and probably means the end for Lyon at Morton. He's a better player than Blues and McGrattan so I'm disappointed to see him leave. He hasn't shown it for a long long time though and to his credit, Blues has improved, scored goals and works his arse off for 90 minutes. Need more than just ability to make it at this level and clearly Lyon is missing something in his game right now. Lets hope he finds it as I'm sure we would love to see him back in the team. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 53 minutes ago, irnbru said: I think that's harsh given he's getting contracts. They obviously see something in him but can't get the best out of him consistently so there's obviously something wrong there. I'm not convinced that it was entirely Imrie's decision to give Lyon an 18 month deal, just after walking in the door. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, irnbru said: I think that's harsh given he's getting contracts. They obviously see something in him but can't get the best out of him consistently so there's obviously something wrong there. Hopefully the loan is a bit of a warning for him and he manages to turn it around. There's a good player in there. Tells me there may be an attitude problem. Signs new deals, short spell in team then warms the bench for months on end. It's not harsh at all, it's a recurring theme. TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Linked to a Motherwell defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RealTonKid Posted September 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Jamie_M said: Lyon away to Annan. Tough draw for Annan 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Busby's Moustache Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 50 minutes ago, Jamie_M said: Linked to a Motherwell defender. Max Johnston and Darragh OConnor both played for QoS . *See You Tube post "Johnston and O'Connor on fire." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, vikingTON said: I'm not convinced that it was entirely Imrie's decision to give Lyon an 18 month deal, just after walking in the door. While the board clearly had some hand in the decisions to offer contracts early (ie any players young enough that we could potentially receive compensation got them, regardless of how that likely that was) Lyon had started every game under Imrie up to the point he got the contract, and was playing well too. It was only the second game after signing the new contract that he was dropped, but we'll never know whether the security of the contract led to an attitude problem in training or if it was just coincidental timing with Imrie always thinking he was the obvious candidate to be dropped for Wilson and having little to do with the contract. It was a two and half year deal rather than one and a half, incidentally. Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Not sure what's wrong with Lyon but with his contract running until May 2024, I would assume he's just at Annan to get fitter, get game time, and get back to the player he was. He is a better player than Blues, but recently hasn't been anywhere near his best. Hope we see him back at the end of January ready to win his place back. "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 A lot of statements about lyon and how there must be something going on behind the scenes and that he's a better player than blues. I'm not entirely sure I agree. Have we ever seen him play consistently well and influence games in the way an effective central midfielder should? I can't think of many games although has shown flashes. Blues has progressed each season he has played for us and has become a good player at this level. Lyon hasnt and it may just be that he's isn't good enough for championship football. Time will tell I suppose There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mr.Blue said: Blues has progressed each season he has played for us and has become a good player at this level. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 7 hours ago, vikingTON said: Need to agree to disagree. There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mr.Blue said: Need to agree to disagree. I think it's quite clear that none of our midfielders (with the possible exception of Crawford) could be classed as good Championship players. If they were then we wouldn't have been consistently in and around a relegation scrap. The required quality has not been there to do any better than that. Edited September 3, 2022 by vikingTON The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vikingTON Posted September 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Mr.Blue said: Need to agree to disagree. I'd like to raise today's game as Exhibit A, B, C, D and E for why Cameron Blues is nowhere near a 'good Championship central midfielder'. I've seen good Championship central midfielders at Morton - Allan Jenkins for a start - and that, sir, is not in the same postcode. If we're to stop pissing around in 7th-9th then we need to stop this revisionism of utter diddies and ruthlessly punt the likes of Blues, Muirhead and Kabia. Two of the three shouldn't have got a new deal in the summer. 8 The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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