DumfriesTon Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Not bothered at all with Wilson going, more the fact that QoS seems a more attractive option with him and Reilly heading there. I thought our performances dipped and midfield control was lost when he came into the team for Lyon. Definitely better out there. Fingers crossed Queens want Jacobs back too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossMcC1874 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Losing Wilson is a blow I felt he was excellent since joining and really surprised he dropped down a level. Hopefully we have some rabbits to pull out of the hat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrodelawasp Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Wilson had a pretty wretched first couple of games, looking way, way off the pace. He did show some improvement, mainly in terms of fitness and effort, but I don’t think he was anywhere near ‘excellent’ at any point. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) Wilson was not the new Busquets. Ponderously slow. We can do better. Someone to complement Lyon/Blues, who work well together. Edited June 2, 2022 by Alibi "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Alibi said: Wilson was not the new Busquets. Ponderously slow. We can do better. Someone to complement Lyon/Blues, who work well together. Aye because they're definitely the Xavi/Iniesta in this comparison. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EanieMeany Posted June 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 Given how completely Lyon dropped out, to the point where he wasn’t even getting off the bench in games that were crying out for changes in the middle, I think we can safely assume it wasn’t tactical and was due to something else. In light of that, Wilson was the difference between us staying up and getting relegated. He absolutely carried what was supposed to pass for a midfield post-Lyon, and once again the situation is that anybody coming in is going to need to be of a high standard to compensate for what we have. 3 AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Need to ditch whoever doesn't want a contract and get a squad together now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Alibi said: Wilson was not the new Busquets. Ponderously slow. We can do better. Someone to complement Lyon/Blues, who work well together. At most one of Lyon and Blues should be starting games every week, and if you were looking to build a squad to target the top four rather than survival there's an argument for neither in the first choice midfield. Wilson was brought in to do a job that Lyon and Blues couldn't in stopping us conceding so many goals from loose balls outside the box. After a pretty dreadful first few games when he wasn't fully fit, as soon as he was up to speed he did exactly that job and stopped us conceding like that. There were question marks about him in possession, although this also improved over time and that was far more an issue arising from the shape and the players around him. Imrie was wedded to both a back three to compensate for pace in the defence and a front three to maintain a high press, leaving us short of bodies and at risk of being overrun in the middle of the park. That it didn't happen often is credit to how well Wilson was doing his job of disrupting the opposition, but this did mean he had more responsibility in possession than you'd have wanted him to have. The far bigger culprit in failing to step up to that challenge and seeing our goals scored drop off a cliff though was Blues: you need whoever is beside the holding midfielder in that system to take responsibility for driving us up the park with the ball at their feet and he wasn't half as good as Lyon at that. Lyon losing his place in the team 100% made us poorer creatively but looking at Wilson as the one keeping him out is missing the point - that's either on Imrie for preferring Blues to Lyon or Lyon himself for whatever he was doing in training that made Imrie lose trust in him. Next season we wouldn't have had that issue, as going to a back four means Imrie can have his front three without leaving us short in midfield, and there won't be the same onus on the holding midfielder to contribute in possession with two players in there with him. 1 Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 9 hours ago, vikingTON said: Aye because they're definitely the Xavi/Iniesta in this comparison. I think you’re missing the point. Wilson is not as good as some are claiming. He did pretty much the job that Jacobs was meant to do, but losing him is not really a huge loss. Nobody is saying that Blues or Lyon are the new Xavi/Iniesta, but in the few games in which they both featured, they did seem to work quite well together. Would I like better players in every position? Of course. But losing Wilson is in my opinion not the major blow some seem to think. Losing Strapp would be a far worse loss. "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alibi said: I think you’re missing the point. Wilson is not as good as some are claiming. He did pretty much the job that Jacobs was meant to do, but losing him is not really a huge loss. Nobody is saying that Blues or Lyon are the new Xavi/Iniesta, but in the few games in which they both featured, they did seem to work quite well together. Would I like better players in every position? Of course. But losing Wilson is in my opinion not the major blow some seem to think. Losing Strapp would be a far worse loss. No, you are missing the point about why Blues and Lyon's midfield partnership was limited to a "few games", while Wilson was an ever-present in the team. Anyone who wants to build a starting midfield partnership around Blues/Lyon in this upcoming Championship is asking for a serious relegation scrap. Only one of the two should be at the club (take your pick - personally I'd prefer Lyon) whereas having both still leaves us with a serious need to upgrade in that position, with less budget that we should have. Our new additions are fairly encouraging but there's a required ruthlessness about retaining the old squad that I'm not seeing. Edited June 3, 2022 by vikingTON The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddie Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 As it stands looking like new GK Pigniatello Baird O’Connor new lb blues jacobs lyon Muirhead new new Squad options Lithgow, Hynes, McGrattan, King, McGregor, Easdale, Garrity Still tbc - Hamilton, Strapp, Ugwu, Oliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 9 hours ago, irnbru said: Need to ditch whoever doesn't want a contract and get a squad together now. We don't have to do anything of the sort though, do we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 I thought that Wilson looked like a player with the potential to be really good at this level, and I do think he'd fit in better in a 4-3-3 type structure (there was often an aspect of him not quite fitting in, I thought), but there's also a part of me that thinks if he doesn't smooth out those (sometimes very) rough edges then he won't ever quite be the player he looks like he might be - he did so some ridiculously bad stuff in amongst his good general play. I think we're going to have to hope Jacobs can find his form or we can find a way to move him on (which Imrie seemed to generally hint at in terms of players who already have a deal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
port-ton Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Doddie said: As it stands looking like new GK Pigniatello Baird O’Connor new lb blues jacobs lyon Muirhead new new Squad options Lithgow, Hynes, McGrattan, King, McGregor, Easdale, Garrity Still tbc - Hamilton, Strapp, Ugwu, Oliver Realistically out of the still tbc I'd be extremely surprised if Hamilton and Ugwu stayed. Strapp might stay due to compensation rules unless he gets an offer from down South and Oliver is an unknown. He might have a better offer from a Queen of the South or something but don't think most fans would be bothered to lose him anyway. You've got to imagine that Dougie will have a new keeper in mind to replace Hamilton that we would get over the line quickly as last thing we want is for him to go elsewhere and we've been waiting on him signing. Good people will do good things, bad people will do bad things, but only with religion do good people do bad things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 On 5/16/2022 at 4:19 PM, LargsTON said: I realise it's an enormous jump in levels but there's a young boy at Largs Thistle just now called William Sewell who's just banged in 41 goals this season. He's a very composed finisher with pace to burn. I'd suggest he's more worthy of a look than retaining the likes of Ecky Easdale. Apparently a few senior clubs sniffing about already. Signs for Stenny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Ideal, stupid wee club to take that inevitable gamble, before The Famous swoop for him in January* * Or he goes back to the Juniors - either way, we lose nothing. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargsTON Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Jamie_M said: Signs for Stenny. Was just about to post this. Interesting to see how he does. "CORNBEEF IS A BELLEND" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Can’t help wondering if Wilson and Reilly are hoping they’ll benefit from QOS playing the ball on the deck more than Morton. Hopefully Imrie intends to improve that aspect and we see the results-emergence of Lyon playing a part in it. I’d still like to sign someone like Stephen McGinn who can keep possession and I feel is an upgrade on Wilson and Jacobs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, DreamOakTree said: Can’t help wondering if Wilson and Reilly are hoping they’ll benefit from QOS playing the ball on the deck more than Morton. Aye they're been Brazil 1970ing it all the way to the Lowland League right enough. 1 The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so72 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 4 hours ago, DreamOakTree said: Can’t help wondering if Wilson and Reilly are hoping they’ll benefit from QOS playing the ball on the deck more than Morton. Hopefully Imrie intends to improve that aspect and we see the results-emergence of Lyon playing a part in it. I’d still like to sign someone like Stephen McGinn who can keep possession and I feel is an upgrade on Wilson and Jacobs. Two players with previous at QotS, one from Dumfries and the other from Ayrshire, I think that is the biggest draw alongside probably being their highest paid players - certainly Reilly anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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