cmdc Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jamie_M said: Why... Well they already abused the furlough scheme so nothing ruled out. Quite serious allegations to be chucking out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, cmdc said: Quite serious allegations to be chucking out! Then Ewan Boyle situation was an abuse of furlough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdc Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 On Jim - he’s got an off field role at another club. Understandable at his career stage to take the opportunity. Just now, Jamie_M said: Then Ewan Boyle situation was an abuse of furlough. I don’t think it was but been round the houses on that. And there’s a long way from there to trousering half a million pounds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renfrew Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, cmdc said: On Jim - he’s got an off field role at another club. Understandable at his career stage to take the opportunity. Have you got a source on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdc Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Renfrew said: Have you got a source on that? Was in the paper today. Can’t remember which - at the end of an article about MacKinnon leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 So who the feck is our stand in keeper if needed now instead of McAlister... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bewilderedbeast Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jamie_M said: So who the feck is our stand in keeper if needed now instead of McAlister... Excellent question, I'd forgotten about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 If only we'd the cash to bring in a backup goalie, even on a part time basis, for 3 months. Peter Weatherson is the greatest player since Ritchie, and should be assigned 'chairman for life' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, GiGi said: If only we'd the cash to bring in a backup goalie, even on a part time basis, for 3 months. Careful what you wish for, happier without. https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/19028163.ex-morton-keeper-ive-felt-like-walking-away-football/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Strathblane Crescent Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, cmdc said: Quite serious allegations to be chucking out! One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El gofer Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Nornirontons said: Is there an echo on this forum? Can only assume you didn't read the king of keyboard warriors VTs post. I left the school playground a long long time ago but in my opinion its relevant to me and maybe guys who left greenock along time ago... It's certainly better examples than a mercenary and a boy who was an average also ran. To compare Jim McAllister to them just isn't relevant in any shape or form. Neither is a midfielder for a start Perhaps you can suggest someone then? Actually, off the back of VTs post I took the opportunity to have a look on the excellent fitbastats site as I was intrigued by what age the players were. I suspected they were younger than Jim was and was proven correct. I recall watching the players you mentioned and agree that Jim had more to offer then them when they finished. Thing was though, they were finished by the end of their time. Two of the players you mentioned had jobs related to football that they were in the process of moving into. Dunno about Tolmie. When they retired circa 93-94, there was not a pandemic affecting footballer and also the economy so, apart from the positional similarities with two of them, the examples are otherwise like comparing apples and elephants. Good luck to Jim. 20.1.09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, cmdc said: On Jim - he’s got an off field role at another club. Understandable at his career stage to take the opportunity. I don’t think it was but been round the houses on that. And there’s a long way from there to trousering half a million pounds! There's complete cynicism from the support about Golden Casket's motives in everything they do. That cynicism is entirely down to their own management of the club over the last 20 years, with the last few months massively exacerbating that. I do think it's highly unlikely that there's a nefarious scheme here, and the most likely thing is that the wholly understandable cynicism has got people doing 2+2 and getting 500K. It's more than likely a misplaced fear, for all that questioning GC's motives is entirely appropriate. You have to see why people are suspicious though. After everything that has gone on already regarding the stadium and the takeover, we've now had the club shedding six wages, as Hopkin alleged was the plan when he walked out. We have no manager, no goalkeeping coach, no Chief Executive, three first team regulars have left, one of them the captain retiring out of the blue in the middle of the season. There's no indication that we're planning to use those saved wages to address the glaring weaknesses in the squad, notably only having one goalkeeper in a season where anyone can very feasibly find themselves having to self-isolate for 10 days over and above the existing risks of injury or red cards. Meanwhile, the clubs below us who are looking to drag us into the relegation battle, who already have such advantages as managers and multiple goalkeepers, are going out and strengthening their squads while ours gets weaker amidst a run of five games without a win. Considering that context, it's entirely reasonable to ask where the fuck the five hundred thousand pounds - more than double the prize money we made last season - the club have been handed by the government has actually gone or is going to go. That money wasn't on the table when the talk of getting rid of six players entered the public domain, so why have they gone ahead with shedding six wages anyway, and what's the money going to be used for now these cuts have been made regardless? Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdc Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Yeah sure, it’s obvious fans are cynical about the running of the club. I just think there’s a huge leap from ‘the club has been badly run’ to ‘the owners are stealing half a million pounds’. The former is a reasonable debate. The latter is a serious allegation. I assume that with match day income significantly reduced the £500k is being used to stabilise what was previously described by MCT as a perilous financial position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 It isn't fair to assume that the Raes are pocketing a government grant. On the other hand, it also isn't reasonable to just assume that the current owners will act entirely selflessly and in the club's best interests. The owners need the fans to take the club off their hands. They need the government grant. It isn't unreasonable to expect more transparency (and less spin) than is usually the case with the Raes, given the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, TopCat said: It isn't fair to assume that the Raes are pocketing a government grant. On the other hand, it also isn't reasonable to just assume that the current owners will act entirely selflessly and in the club's best interests. The owners need the fans to take the club off their hands. They need the government grant. It isn't unreasonable to expect more transparency (and less spin) than is usually the case with the Raes, given the circumstances. Yeah, I think the odds of the Raes writing themselves a wee check for have a million then leaving are very slim. Aside from anything else, it'd be a foolish thing to do. I think the odds of their reducing their already-bare minimum support to virtually nothing, on the other hand, are significant. It would be churlish to expect them (or any owner, in fact) to push the boat out and spunk the money on a new January squad, and that's not what anyone expects. It isn't too much to ask, however, to have the trappings of a professional team, including a complement of goalkeepers less reminiscent of Jossy's Giants. Let's bear in mind that MCT's agreement with the Raes involved writing off the debt (in exchange for the stadium, of course) that existed prior to this cash injection. If this cash "counts" towards that - rather than serving its intended purpose - then that's extremely shady. And unfortunately I think there is more chance of this being true than its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Aitken's Love Child Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 32 minutes ago, TRVMP said: check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_panther Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Trvmp needs a spellchequer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, cmdc said: I assume that with match day income significantly reduced the £500k is being used to stabilise what was previously described by MCT as a perilous financial position. In what ways are they doing this? Six employees were asked to leave during Hopkin's showdown meeting before this windfall was announced - six employees have left regardless. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, Stevie Aitken's Love Child said: I am fully assimilated. Found myself saying 'pop the trunk' instead of 'open the boot' the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hej Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 4 hours ago, cmdc said: Where is the idea coming from that the Rae family are pocketing half a million pounds of public money? It's quite obvious the 500k is being used to limit any Golden Casket expenditure on GMFC until the summer, when they can swan off not needing to care what division we end up in. Nothing illegal about that, but you'd have to be blinkered at this stage not to see that the grant is being used primarily as self-preservation for the Raes/GC, rather than for the overall benefit of Morton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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