Peter Weatherson

[C B]

16 hours and 55 minutes - no goals

 

Were his last two not against Stranraer??? That was about 720 hours ago?

[Dream Oak Tree]

I don't believe Peter is a chancer as some are saying. I think players have a choice of how successful they want to be and how much they want to sacrifice to acheive it. I remember Mark McGhee used to come back and train on his own to build up his strength and sharpness, and got the rewards as it gave him an edge over players of similar ability.

 

I think Peter has also had that choice and decided he's happy with what he's got, a job as a professional footballer, well known about town and in the media. He's not under too much pressure and can take it easy and enjoy a few beers when he likes. The three year deal will have added to his comfort factor.

 

If he chose the option of pushing himself to his limits he probably feels he would be in the SPL as many experts have said. The fact he's settled for life as Morton's top striker with no further ambition, he probably sees as his prerogative and it means Morton are getting his services rather than any other team. That may explain why he looks pretty disillusioned with the critisism he's getting at the moment. He may also feel he doesn't have the right partner alongside him to get the best out of him.

 

There's not a lot we can do about it so I hope the Management and Peter can sort it out between them.

 

 

[midTONs]

It's now 3 yrs now since I first said Peter should move on, I haven't changed my mind.

 

Just for the record I would like to add, I don't think Peter is a bad player I just think he is wasting his time at Morton and Morton are wasting their time holding on to him, I believe Peter is in a bit of a comfort zone at Cappielow and a fresh challenge would benefit him and in the long run benefit Morton.

 

[TonInDublin]

Just for the record I would like to add, I don't think Peter is a bad player I just think he is wasting his time at Morton and Morton are wasting their time holding on to him, I believe Peter is in a bit of a comfort zone at Cappielow and a fresh challenge would benefit him and in the long run benefit Morton.

 

Thats the bit we disagree on. I think he is the last rotten apple from the bunch of rotten apples that soured the club in THAT year we all know about.

 

He should have been shown the door at the time with all the rest instead of being rewarded with new improved contracts which allowed him and his fellow "professionals" to remain unfit, complain about training schedules, oust managers, salve the chairmans ego and get on with the important task at hand of finding out who is the best at naked table tennis in Bridge Of Weir.

 

He had his day, but his time has long since gone and we'd be well rid.

 

TonInDublin

[Dream Oak Tree]

Just for the record I would like to add, I don't think Peter is a bad player I just think he is wasting his time at Morton and Morton are wasting their time holding on to him, I believe Peter is in a bit of a comfort zone at Cappielow and a fresh challenge would benefit him and in the long run benefit Morton.

 

I think that's definitely the case. This is very common in football and is probably a natural situation for a player who's been part of an under achieving club for several years. It's probably much more difficult to get out of that comfort zone when you've just signed a 3 year deal and have settled in the local community.

 

I think it will take some good man Management from Allan Moore, plus a response from the player himself, to get Peter out of his comfort zone.

 

[midTONs]

Thats the bit we disagree on. I think he is the last rotten apple from the bunch of rotten apples that soured the club in THAT year we all know about.

 

He should have been shown the door at the time with all the rest instead of being rewarded with new improved contracts which allowed him and his fellow "professionals" to remain unfit, complain about training schedules, oust managers, salve the chairmans ego and get on with the important task at hand of finding out who is the best at naked table tennis in Bridge Of Weir.

 

He had his day, but his time has long since gone and we'd be well rid.

 

TonInDublin

 

I don't think we disagree on very much here mate, although I didn't go into detail I fully agree with the above and have said as much in the past but I still don't think he is a bad player but having said that I still think it would be best for both parties to part company.

 

[Rhubarb Mess]

You see when folk use etc it kind of suggests that there are more options! The examples never referred to the existing team.

 

It is just my opinion that Weatherson is a chancer who has outstayed his welcome. Only ever plays in fits and starts and coincidently at or around new contract discussion time, when other teams have shown an interest, when he has a point to prove etc (please not the etc). Yet again at the start of a season appears to over-weight and unfit.

 

But its not just your opinion Ham.

 

BTW, the rest of the paragraph is the best description of his attitude I have seen on here, take a bow.

 

One thing is for sure, he will never be a Morton legend, he is no Warren Hawke nor an Andy Ritchie. When Peter finally does leave that will be it..no one will be harking back to him in 10 years time, there won't be supporters travel clubs named after him, and I think that is testament to what the Morton fans really think of him, a very talented, but lazy and moody player..In short, a waste of of the obvious skills he has at his disposal.

[Rhubarb Mess]

Doesn't Peter have a testemonial at the end of his current tenure?

 

I for one will not be giving a penny to that.

 

I think that's definitely the case. This is very common in football and is probably a natural situation for a player who's been part of an under achieving club for several years. It's probably much more difficult to get out of that comfort zone when you've just signed a 3 year deal and have settled in the local community.

 

I think it will take some good man Management from Allan Moore, plus a response from the player himself, to get Peter out of his comfort zone.

 

DOT, he comes out of his comfort zone when he feels like it, either when the pressure mounts from fed up fans or he has to prove he is worth yet another deal. You touched on good man management, if he remains, or goes in and out of his 'comfort zone', as we have all seen over the years, Allan Moore will punt him.

 

Previous managers have had problems, but PW is DDF's blue eyed boy, but those days are gone, no running to the sugar daddy to complain you had to exercise too much, in fact, quite the opposite with Crawford now having much more of an influence, he will expect players earn what they are paid.

[C B]

But its not just your opinion Ham.

 

BTW, the rest of the paragraph is the best description of his attitude I have seen on here, take a bow.

 

One thing is for sure, he will never be a Morton legend, he is no Warren Hawke nor an Andy Ritchie. When Peter finally does leave that will be it..no one will be harking back to him in 10 years time, there won't be supporters travel clubs named after him, and I think that is testament to what the Morton fans really think of him, a very talented, but lazy and moody player..In short, a waste of of the obvious skills he has at his disposal.

Peter definately is marmite where the Morton fans are concerned and it's also well known that Peter hated Alex Williams and I wonder if it's the Alex Williams lovers that hate Peter and have never forgiven him for 2003/2004?

 

Needless to say, a poor run of form as a result of a long term injury brings out the boo boys. Where have all the fans that were glad he didn't sign for Partick gone? That was the biggest cheer at Cappielow last season when that was announced !!!

 

For those that weren't alive or have selective memories, Andy Ritchie was the most gifted player ever to pull on the morton jersey, but he was a lazy sh!t who played in fits and starts !

[Rhubarb Mess]

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Peter definately is marmite where the Morton fans are concerned and it's also well known that Peter hated Alex Williams and I wonder if it's the Alex Williams lovers that hate Peter and have never forgiven him for 2003/2004?

 

Needless to say, a poor run of form as a result of a long term injury brings out the boo boys. Where have all the fans that were glad he didn't sign for Partick gone? That was the biggest cheer at Cappielow last season when that was announced !!!

 

For those that weren't alive or have selective memories, Andy Ritchie was the most gifted player ever to pull on the morton jersey, but he was a lazy sh!t who played in fits and starts !

 

I have more time for Peter than I ever did for Alex Williams.

 

IMO, the cheer wasn't that great, certainly most round where I stood never bothered.

 

Andy may have played in fits and starts, but he did so in almost every game, Peter can go several games at a time moping around the park generally uninterested and sullen. What age are you CB? I am 40 and watched Andy week in week out and he most certainly did pull us out of the s*** more often than not...as the saying goes, Weatherson could not lace up Ritchie's boots.

[C B]

IMO, the cheer wasn't that great, certainly most round where I stood never bothered.

 

Andy may have played in fits and starts, but he did so in almost every game, Peter can go several games at a time moping around the park generally uninterested and sullen. What age are you CB? I am 40 and watched Andy week in week out and he most certainly did pull us out of the s*** more often than not...as the saying goes, Weatherson could not lace up Ritchie's boots.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing Andy to Peter, I'm just saying, the criticism of a lazy gifted bugger has been heard before

 

We would have been in the same year in school, Bobby Thompson was my favourite player as a kid because he got tore in. I did cheer everytime Andy scored but I remember being a bit frustrated at his weight and lazyness. Benny Rooney did even drop him from time to time which is another thing that is forgotten.

 

Anyway, I'll not hide from the fact that I'm a Peter fan and accept his flaws (and will be at his testimonial), it just annoys me what a hard time he gets on here from the hypocrites who don't look in a mirror. BTW I'm not referring to you old china

[Dream Oak Tree]

I for one will not be giving a penny to that.

DOT, he comes out of his comfort zone when he feels like it, either when the pressure mounts from fed up fans or he has to prove he is worth yet another deal. You touched on good man management, if he remains, or goes in and out of his 'comfort zone', as we have all seen over the years, Allan Moore will punt him.

 

Previous managers have had problems, but PW is DDF's blue eyed boy, but those days are gone, no running to the sugar daddy to complain you had to exercise too much, in fact, quite the opposite with Crawford now having much more of an influence, he will expect players earn what they are paid.

 

I'm not sure it's just a case of when he feels like it, everyone will find something extra if some sort of external pressure is exerted, such as your job is under threat after years of routinely carrying out your duties.

 

In Peter's case very little external pressure has been exerted. If as you say, it's been shown that Peter responds when that pressure is exerted, then conversely a 3 year deal would surely have the opposite effect. If your bosses seem happy with your performance and reward you with a 3 year deal, then surely you're natural response won't be to suddenly step up a gear.

 

I think it may take someone like Allan Moore to lay down the law. Peter might even welcome that approach as he'll know deep down he needs it. Moore said at the weekend if certain players don't want to do it his way then they won't be at the club for long. He now has two weeks to drum that message home so lets see what happens after the International break.

[Rhubarb Mess]

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing Andy to Peter, I'm just saying, the criticism of a lazy gifted bugger has been heard before

 

We would have been in the same year in school, Bobby Thompson was my favourite player as a kid because he got tore in. I did cheer everytime Andy scored but I remember being a bit frustrated at his weight and lazyness. Benny Rooney did even drop him from time to time which is another thing that is forgotten.

 

Anyway, I'll not hide from the fact that I'm a Peter fan and accept his flaws (and will be at his testimonial), it just annoys me what a hard time he gets on here from the hypocrites who don't look in a mirror. BTW I'm not referring to you old china

 

 

We agree in one aspect, Bobby was my favourite player too.

[C B]

We agree in one aspect, Bobby was my favourite player too.

 

 

[BMC]

I'm not sure it's just a case of when he feels like it, everyone will find something extra if some sort of external pressure is exerted, such as your job is under threat after years of routinely carrying out your duties.

 

In Peter's case very little external pressure has been exerted. If as you say, it's been shown that Peter responds when that pressure is exerted, then conversely a 3 year deal would surely have the opposite effect. If your bosses seem happy with your performance and reward you with a 3 year deal, then surely you're natural response won't be to suddenly step up a gear.

 

I think it may take someone like Allan Moore to lay down the law. Peter might even welcome that approach as he'll know deep down he needs it. Moore said at the weekend if certain players don't want to do it his way then they won't be at the club for long. He now has two weeks to drum that message home so lets see what happens after the International break.

 

We'd be a million times off with someone who doesn't need any external pressure. Someone self motivated, who wants to do their best in games because they want to achieve things in their career, win trophies, improve, move on to a higher level, or just because they're a winner.

 

Whether current poor form is down to a lack of effort or lack of fitness off the back of an injury i don't know, but he's taken the club for a ride for years.

 

His finding something extra only usually brings him to the standard you'd expect of him all the time. His having more ability than our other strikers shouldn't come into it. If he doesn't want to do his job then I know what any other employer would do.

[delboy66]

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Dont think you can put bad boy Bobby & Peter in the same bracket... Bobby was one of my fav players for a long time olso but he had a short temper & was not scared to put himself about Peter could not tackle a fish supper!!!

When the game was going wrong Bobby would go & sort it by putting the ball in the net from 20yds or a diving header!! Peter looks like a player who is saying yes give me the money but dont ask me to go & get my hands dirty & if he is injured give him a rest & try Kelbie & Kean & if he does not like it well thats his problem....

[vikingTON]

It's unreal how much of a moron you actually are.

 

Um yeah, a 'moron' for pointing out the facts of the matter. I should have probably stuck to ridiculous opinions like your Jenkins-hate instead.

 

I just think he's done and would be doing himself and us a favour if he moved on now (or had done last year even).

Hmm, so you actually agree but just can't bring yourself to do it because of your history of tiny tears moments. I think the 'moron' here is plain to see.

 

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Were his last two not against Stranraer??? That was about 720 hours ago?

 

I'm not including cup games.

[chrissiboi]

I don't think PW has fully got over his injury from last season. You can see that with his sharpness (or lack of it) around the box.

 

I do not see the same level of criticism towards Kelbie and the others.

 

 

I disagree with giving anyone a 3 year deal but thats not the player's fault.

 

 

Isin't it due to the lack of goals in the team that has raised this debate, if PW was guilty of passing up numerous chances in every game I could see the point but as far as I am aware this is not the case, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

 

The manager has picked him before others who he signed ? So before we start the mud slinging can it be tempered with alittle reason.

[cornbeef]

I'm not including cup games.

 

 

Convenient.

 

 

[garymcc1874]

Um yeah, a 'moron' for pointing out the facts of the matter. I should have probably stuck to ridiculous opinions like your Jenkins-hate instead.

 

Hmm, so you actually agree but just can't bring yourself to do it because of your history of tiny tears moments. I think the 'moron' here is plain to see.

 

I'm not including cup games.

 

Convenient.

 

I agree that Weatherson's time here is up but I'm not going to put ridiculous, petty (and false) crap on my signature and actually think that I'm in some way going to help us get rid of him.