Peter Weatherson

[Ghost]

It's now 3 yrs now since I first said Peter should move on, I haven't changed my mind.

 

 

It is now 3 years since mother passed away Jim, she said the same thing back then

[HamCam]

I think its pretty daft to presume that any of the current players are dumb enough to play badly to attempt to get rid of Moore (a manager Dougies been after for ages) or to get a transfer (look how pish i am come and buy me).

 

Past morton teams you may have a point, currently, no.

 

You see when folk use etc it kind of suggests that there are more options! The examples never referred to the existing team.

 

It is just my opinion that Weatherson is a chancer who has outstayed his welcome. Only ever plays in fits and starts and coincidently at or around new contract discussion time, when other teams have shown an interest, when he has a point to prove etc (please not the etc). Yet again at the start of a season appears to over-weight and unfit.

[rex manning]

You see when folk use etc it kind of suggests that there are more options! The examples never referred to the existing team.

 

It is just my opinion that Weatherson is a chancer who has outstayed his welcome. Only ever plays in fits and starts and coincidently at or around new contract discussion time, when other teams have shown an interest, when he has a point to prove etc (please not the etc). Yet again at the start of a season appears to over-weight and unfit.

 

 

Thanks for the lesson. So you have other reasons as to why Peter apparently isnt trying now but you decided to name irrelevant ones, followed by etc, instead of actually naming them? Okey dokey.

[jpmil]

i couldn't make this any clearer, get weatherson to ****. his attitude is all wrong, he didn't even applaud the fans either. and just to top it of when he was subbed he didn't even go over to kelbie and wish him luck and shake his hand.

 

weatherson is the problem. all this pish about he is our best striker, he has to play is absolute s***e. hes a non-tryer. the only way forward is to get rid of him. hes finished and only cares about the moneys hes getting and not the club which is wrong.

 

 

I would suggest that the club tackle the problem of Weatherson as would be done in industry.

His contract will read that his employment is as a "Footballer" and as he has been remiss in his duties as such, set a target of X goals and if he doesn't deliver within a set timeframe be given a warning that he is in breach of contract.

If there is no improvement then is evident dismiss him as he will have failed to live up to the terms of his contract of employment.

No severence pay and no reference to future employers.

 

[GiGi]

Contracts should probably be less basic pay more bonuses anyway for us.

[AyrshireTon]

Doesn't Peter have a testemonial at the end of his current tenure?

[garymcc1874]

I would suggest that the club tackle the problem of Weatherson as would be done in industry.

His contract will read that his employment is as a "Footballer" and as he has been remiss in his duties as such, set a target of X goals and if he doesn't deliver within a set timeframe be given a warning that he is in breach of contract.

If there is no improvement then is evident dismiss him as he will have failed to live up to the terms of his contract of employment.

No severence pay and no reference to future employers.

 

That's one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here. Ever.

[HamCam]

Thanks for the lesson. So you have other reasons as to why Peter apparently isnt trying now but you decided to name irrelevant ones, followed by etc, instead of actually naming them? Okey dokey.

 

Here to help

 

If you could be bothered reading what was written you would note that I never originally referred to PW but rather responded to the comment that you cannot accept Morton have/had players who decided to give less than their all on the park. While I would love to share your rose tinted specs reality is that for most we are just another club paying a wage. Look further afield just now at Macherano and Begovic - cannot even be bothered playing for the clubs that pay their wage.

 

As to why PW at times does not appear to give a s*** I wish I knew the answer

 

As a Ps can I throw in a reference to Shimmin - talk about a player who played for the jersey.

[TigerTon]

Contracts should probably be less basic pay more bonuses anyway for us.

 

I think a good few clubs in the 2nd and 3rd run their wages like this. Alan Maitland was on the radio last week saying that his Alloa players dont get much of a wage but do get £150 win bonus. However, in an ideal world, players wouldn't need monetary incentives to want to win.

[rex manning]

Here to help

 

If you could be bothered reading what was written you would note that I never originally referred to PW but rather responded to the comment that you cannot accept Morton have/had players who decided to give less than their all on the park. While I would love to share your rose tinted specs reality is that for most we are just another club paying a wage. Look further afield just now at Macherano and Begovic - cannot even be bothered playing for the clubs that pay their wage.

 

As to why PW at times does not appear to give a s*** I wish I knew the answer

 

As a Ps can I throw in a reference to Shimmin - talk about a player who played for the jersey.

 

The thread is about Peter Weatherson apparently being pish and more importantly not trying. Thats what we were discussing. If you can tell me a reason why any member of the current Morton team would not try then fine. The 2 players you mention went on strike to push though a transfer. What that has to do with the motivation of any of the current Morton team is beyond me. I dont think any of them are refusing to play in the hopes of clinching a move to Madrid.

 

I never said that Morton players in the past have never given anything other than their all, theres an argument they have on numerous occasions.

 

[Dream Oak Tree]

I would suggest that the club tackle the problem of Weatherson as would be done in industry.

His contract will read that his employment is as a "Footballer" and as he has been remiss in his duties as such, set a target of X goals and if he doesn't deliver within a set timeframe be given a warning that he is in breach of contract.

If there is no improvement then is evident dismiss him as he will have failed to live up to the terms of his contract of employment.

No severence pay and no reference to future employers.

 

I don't think that's legally viable as the goals return won't be in his contract. However what should be in the contract is the requirement to maintain a certain level of fitness. With Morton's current fitness monitoring system I would like to see Allan Moore set a minimum level of fitness below which players will be omitted from the match squad.

 

The fitness levels are definitely monitored and each player has a rating. McAlister and Finlayson were regularly recorded as the fittest players at the club. I would like to see the records published for all players, plus a minimum acceptable level if such a level exists.

 

There are one or two players who I would be surprised to see achieve that minimum level on current evidence. I 've got a feeling though that exceptions or allowances may be made for certain players due to missing pre-season training or specific circumstances. Lets have the records and mitigating circumstances published for us all to see.

 

[HamCam]

My original comment was in response to your view that you "refuse to believe any player who runs out for Morton doesnt try". I maintain that position reflects a rose tinted specs view of the world. I then offered up various scenarios when players give less than their all - you then took the huff

 

I have never said PW is pish I have always acknowledged he is a talented footballer (particularly at this level). The frustration I have with him and others of late, fortunate enough to have worn the blue and white, is that they appear not to care enough to realise their full potential.

 

I maintain PW is a chancer - he cannot even be bothered as a full-time pro footballer to get himself fit. So yes I think at times PW does the bare minimum and under performs. Problem is nothing better in the squad so what choice does the manager have.

[Dream Oak Tree]

My original comment was in response to your view that you "refuse to believe any player who runs out for Morton doesnt try". I maintain that position reflects a rose tinted specs view of the world. I then offered up various scenarios when players give less than their all - you then took the huff

 

I have never said PW is pish I have always acknowledged he is a talented footballer (particularly at this level). The frustration I have with him and others of late, fortunate enough to have worn the blue and white, is that they appear not to care enough to realise their full potential.

 

I maintain PW is a chancer - he cannot even be bothered as a full-time pro footballer to get himself fit. So yes I think at times PW does the bare minimum and under performs. Problem is nothing better in the squad so what choice does the manager have.

 

I would say that as Peter is not scoring goals anyway, the Manager has the choice of choosing the players who keep themselves fit. Peter will then also have the choice of whether he wants to get fit.

 

I would ask the question of any Morton fan, regardless of your opinion of Peter's ability, do you regard him as an athlete?

 

[rex manning]

My original comment was in response to your view that you "refuse to believe any player who runs out for Morton doesnt try". I maintain that position reflects a rose tinted specs view of the world. I then offered up various scenarios when players give less than their all - you then took the huff

 

I have never said PW is pish I have always acknowledged he is a talented footballer (particularly at this level). The frustration I have with him and others of late, fortunate enough to have worn the blue and white, is that they appear not to care enough to realise their full potential.

 

I maintain PW is a chancer - he cannot even be bothered as a full-time pro footballer to get himself fit. So yes I think at times PW does the bare minimum and under performs. Problem is nothing better in the squad so what choice does the manager have.

 

Huff? ha, ok nae bother.

 

You gave numerous scenarios which are completely irrelevant to Morton at this time, which is what we are talking about and what my comment of players running out for Morton expressed. If i had said no Morton player has ever given less than their all then id agree about the rose tinted specs, but i didnt, so i dont.

 

[TaunTon]

I maintain PW is a chancer - he cannot even be bothered as a full-time pro footballer to get himself fit. So yes I think at times PW does the bare minimum and under performs.

 

I'm surprised anyone would argue with that with all the experience we have of Peter. He could have been so much better if he wanted it bad enough. He doesn't, therefore he's still with us.

[HamCam]

Huff? ha, ok nae bother.

 

You gave numerous scenarios which are completely irrelevant to Morton at this time, which is what we are talking about and what my comment of players running out for Morton expressed. If i had said no Morton player has ever given less than their all then id agree about the rose tinted specs, but i didnt, so i dont.

 

Aw give yourself a hug

 

I believe PW is a chancer you appear to give him the benefit of the doubt. Suspect neither of us are going to change the others opinion. In the circumstances when the testimonial/sick bucket comes round can you put in a tenner for me. If you don't know when the time to donate is due just keep a watch on when PW starts to give a s***e

[cornbeef]

Aw give yourself a hug

 

I believe PW is a chancer you appear to give him the benefit of the doubt. Suspect neither of us are going to change the others opinion. In the circumstances when the testimonial/sick bucket comes round can you put in a tenner for me. If you don't know when the time to donate is due just keep a watch on when PW starts to give a s***e

 

 

Peters stats speak for themselves fannybaws. For all his (perceived) faults he has been the most important player in our team for the past few years. Fact. The greatest strikers in the game go through periods when they look like haddies.

I don't think the man is finished by any means but has had bad time trying to shake off last years injury (which as others have rightly pointed out, he chose to play with- at risk to himself) and now he has to recapture his gift for scoring goals.

Personally I think the guy could do a better PR job for himself with regard to his relationship with the fans.

But I also think he should be shown a bit of respect for his achievements.

I'm a fan. ( please feel free to add any consonants you wish)

Personally I think Vikingtons signature will be changed in the next couple of games.

 

 

[HamCam]

Peters stats speak for themselves fannybaws. For all his (perceived) faults he has been the most important player in our team for the past few years. Fact. The greatest strikers in the game go through periods when they look like haddies.

I don't think the man is finished by any means but has had bad time trying to shake off last years injury (which as others have rightly pointed out, he chose to play with- at risk to himself) and now he has to recapture his gift for scoring goals.

Personally I think the guy could do a better PR job for himself with regard to his relationship with the fans.

But I also think he should be shown a bit of respect for his achievements.

I'm a fan. ( please feel free to add any consonants you wish)

Personally I think Vikingtons signature will be changed in the next couple of games.

 

What stats are they cupcake ? Are we talking waist 40 inch, weight 16 stone etc ?

 

Respect is to be earned. PW has been given more chances than Newton but has done little to earn my respect (I am sure that is important to him ).

 

Delighted you are happy with the Messiah I just view him as a very naughty boy.

 

Live long and prosper fan(dango)

[vikingTON]

Personally I think Vikingtons signature will be changed in the next couple of games.

 

Of course it will. If he fails to net against Cowden it will be going above the 17 hour mark: what a striker.

[garymcc1874]

Of course it will. If he fails to net against Cowden it will be going above the 17 hour mark: what a striker.

 

It's unreal how much of a moron you actually are.

 

 

 

I can see where cornbeef is coming from and I hold Peter as one of the best I've seen at this club but that doesn't mean that his time isn't up. He's in danger of ruining what has been several successful years at the club. I just think he's done and would be doing himself and us a favour if he moved on now (or had done last year even).