Trick37 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Some idiot Conservative talkshow host accused Obama of having his own flag made... IDIOT!!!! PS---Listen to his radio broadcast, too. "Throw me to the wolves, and I'll return leading the pack." ---Unknown "May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." ---General George S. Patton, Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTon Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Here are just three of Obama's biggest lies: Obama Lie No. 1 — I will tax just the rich. There is no such thing as a tax on just the rich. Taxes on wealthy people affect everyone. Remember, Obama defines anyone making over $90,000 a year as "rich." Joe the plumber discovered that Obama thinks Joe's rich too. Under Obama, he won't be able to hire new employees and grow his business. Joe's not alone. Obama says he'll strip away the FICA cap at $90,000 for every worker. That means every dollar you earn over that amount, you'll pay 7 percent! Obama Lie No. 2 — I want to give a tax cut to the middle class. Baloney! Obama says he will let the Bush tax cuts expire. That's an automatic 5 percent (maximum) tax increase on almost all taxpayers. Plus middle class folks pay capital gains taxes. Obama has said he wants to almost double them from a low of 15 percent to almost 30 percent. He wants to hike the dividend tax, and he also has promised taxes on gas and energy. Obama also wants to dramatically increase the estate tax, which had almost disappeared. There goes your idea of sharing your wealth with your kids in the future. Obama Lie No. 3 — I want to make America more secure. Another outright lie. In an age when crazies like Iran's Ahmadinejad are building ballistic missiles and promise to "destroy" the United States and Israel, Obama has promised to gut the missile defense program created by President Reagan. "I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems," Obama said. He has promised to cut "tens of billions" of dollars from the Defense Department. In an effort to make us more "secure," Obama plans to disarm us. In the age of 9/11 can we afford such a radical Leftist in the White House? No, we can't. Help the National Republican Trust PAC Tell the Truth About Obama — Go Here Now Obama is not just a danger to our economy, with his plans to raise taxes and spend $800 billion in new programs. He is a radical out to reshape America beyond recognition. He is so radical he even backed driver's licenses for illegal aliens — even though such a move would help future terrorists move freely in the United States. Even Hillary Clinton opposed his radical plan. But Obama not only touted such a plan running for president, he pushed for giving illegals driver's licenses as a state senator in Illinois. He is also the most pro-abortion candidate in the history of the country. In 2001, as a state legislator in Illinois, he opposed a bill to protect live-born children — children actually born alive! He was the only Illinois senator to speak out against the bill. He opposes gun rights. He has long history of trying to deny ordinary citizens access to guns. He originally backed Washington D.C.'s total ban on private handguns — a ban that was overturned. The NRA rated him an "F" on gun positions and says he is one of the most dangerous anti-gun politicians in the nation. Never forget that Obama is a Harvard-educated elitist. To him, we Americans are simply "bitter" and he has mocked us saying "[they] cling to their guns and their religion." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xj2006 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Here are just three of Obama's biggest lies: Obama Lie No. 1 — I will tax just the rich. There is no such thing as a tax on just the rich. Taxes on wealthy people affect everyone. Remember, Obama defines anyone making over $90,000 a year as "rich." Joe the plumber discovered that Obama thinks Joe's rich too. Under Obama, he won't be able to hire new employees and grow his business. Joe's not alone. Obama says he'll strip away the FICA cap at $90,000 for every worker. That means every dollar you earn over that amount, you'll pay 7 percent! Obama Lie No. 2 — I want to give a tax cut to the middle class. Baloney! Obama says he will let the Bush tax cuts expire. That's an automatic 5 percent (maximum) tax increase on almost all taxpayers. Plus middle class folks pay capital gains taxes. Obama has said he wants to almost double them from a low of 15 percent to almost 30 percent. He wants to hike the dividend tax, and he also has promised taxes on gas and energy. Obama also wants to dramatically increase the estate tax, which had almost disappeared. There goes your idea of sharing your wealth with your kids in the future. Obama Lie No. 3 — I want to make America more secure. Another outright lie. In an age when crazies like Iran's Ahmadinejad are building ballistic missiles and promise to "destroy" the United States and Israel, Obama has promised to gut the missile defense program created by President Reagan. "I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems," Obama said. He has promised to cut "tens of billions" of dollars from the Defense Department. In an effort to make us more "secure," Obama plans to disarm us. In the age of 9/11 can we afford such a radical Leftist in the White House? No, we can't. Help the National Republican Trust PAC Tell the Truth About Obama — Go Here Now Obama is not just a danger to our economy, with his plans to raise taxes and spend $800 billion in new programs. He is a radical out to reshape America beyond recognition. He is so radical he even backed driver's licenses for illegal aliens — even though such a move would help future terrorists move freely in the United States. Even Hillary Clinton opposed his radical plan. But Obama not only touted such a plan running for president, he pushed for giving illegals driver's licenses as a state senator in Illinois. He is also the most pro-abortion candidate in the history of the country. In 2001, as a state legislator in Illinois, he opposed a bill to protect live-born children — children actually born alive! He was the only Illinois senator to speak out against the bill. He opposes gun rights. He has long history of trying to deny ordinary citizens access to guns. He originally backed Washington D.C.'s total ban on private handguns — a ban that was overturned. The NRA rated him an "F" on gun positions and says he is one of the most dangerous anti-gun politicians in the nation. Never forget that Obama is a Harvard-educated elitist. To him, we Americans are simply "bitter" and he has mocked us saying "[they] cling to their guns and their religion." so you would vote for the racists? I dont vote, but MCain and Palin would IMO be worse than Bush for not only America but the World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_mceleny Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 if you dont vote your opinion doesnt count! I'd fine everyone who fails to turn up for one minute and vote every few years, like i think they do in australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xj2006 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 if you dont vote your opinion doesnt count! I'd fine everyone who fails to turn up for one minute and vote every few years, like i think they do in australia. so every non American can not have an opinion?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_mceleny Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 ha i thought the way you worded that you chose not to vote in this election, apologies. But i still believe that about voting in general! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xj2006 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 ha i thought the way you worded that you chose not to vote in this election, apologies. But i still believe that about voting in general! no probs do you have an opinion on obama vrs mccain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTon Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 if you dont vote your opinion doesnt count! I'd fine everyone who fails to turn up for one minute and vote every few years, like i think they do in australia. We are VERY WELL TRAINED here in Australia. If we do NOT vote we are fined $ 55 If we do not pay the fine, our driver's licence is cancelled. If you are not a driver, you are simply flogged. The joys of a penal colony of Mother England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_mceleny Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 McCain, don't trust Obama he is the modern day political machine, what are his policies?? And anyway McCain is a real life Rambo you'd expect the we'll wipe iran comment to have came from him not obama!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 McCain, don't trust Obama he is the modern day political machine, what are his policies?? And anyway McCain is a real life Rambo you'd expect the we'll wipe iran comment to have came from him not obama!! McCain fails at failing. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leyTON Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 if you dont vote your opinion doesnt count! I'd fine everyone who fails to turn up for one minute and vote every few years, like i think they do in australia. My own sensible policy on this is that we have an opt out out system, rather than registering to vote, as we do now, you register not to vote, and if you dont turn up to vote, without medical explanation you get the 50 quid fine. Nothing wrong with being opposed to politics or whatever, so either register not to vote (if my system gets put into place) or spoil your ballot paper We are not home and dry, we could not even be said to be home and vigorously towelling ourselves off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 A point on McCain actually; he keeps saying he knows how to win a war. Can someone point out to me his qualifications in this field? He was in Korea, didn't win there. Then he was in Vietnam - royally f***ed. How does he know how to win from experience? Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I always thought Newton talks bollocks but this thread beats his usual deluge. This stream of lies is, quite simply, not true or severely distorted. As an example: "He is also the most pro-abortion candidate in the history of the country. In 2001, as a state legislator in Illinois, he opposed a bill to protect live-born children — children actually born alive! He was the only Illinois senator to speak out against the bill. ". The bill was to intended to ban late-stage, live-born abortions but did not include any provisions that would allow the health of the mother to be protected. Essentially, doctors would be handcuffed into allowing mothers to die if it meant the fetus would be lost. Obama argued that the bill required revision to incorporate provisions for doctors to perform life-SAVING treatment even if it resulted in the loss of the late-term fetus. The Illinois Medical Association was also strongly against this bill and Obama was not the only senator to vote against the bill: the bill did not pass. As someone who actually LIVES in the USA, the republican policies of Bush and McCain have done more to damage the standard of living, healthcare and other day to day issues than anything Obama proposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 NewTon likely doesn't believe the nonsense, he's only reporting the document from a Republican loony splinter sect. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTon Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 so you would vote for the racists? did you read my post ? if you did, did you see: Help the National Republican Trust PAC Tell the Truth About Obama — Go Here Now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I know this doesn't come from Newton but it's stupid to post this crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTon Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I know this doesn't come from Newton but it's stupid to post this crap Gidday Don, Why, mate ? Are you suggesting that the National Republican Trust PAC is rubbish ? Or just stupid ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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