mortonjag Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Oh well, for me the greatest joy is the smug smirk being wiped of C*NT CURRAN'S face. Next time I pass her in Newlands Safeway I shall smile and wish her 'Good Day'. [/quotI would be grateful if you would giver her a cheery wave on my behalf I'd give her a Masonic handshake if I knew how to do it! First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they pretend to befriend you, then you win! YER BARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_McB Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Excellent and incredible result for the SNP. The Salmond bandwagon rolls on and on, what an incredible leader he is ! Labour are in a sorry state. A Party that's almost bankrupt, with a pathetic leader in Westminster and no leader at Holyrood (with no one credible to take over). Roll on the referendum !!! Had a good evening Col? Enjoy it Sir. I doubt this has any more significance for Scottish politics or the SNP than Margo McDonald's victory at Govan. Brown is dead in the water, who will get the job, how will they get Brown out. Referendum Col. Aye the partie quebecois thought that too. "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences."The goal of Socialism is Communism- Lenin Je ne suis pas Marxiste : K Marx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest GibbyTON Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Hmmm, i see quite alot of ye are still living in La La land Rule Britannia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Oh dear, Tom, you just don't get it, do you? Yes, it's "only" a by-election. Nevertheless, it still indicates that the SNP is continuing to gain ground - and also, once bars are raised in terms of achievemnt, they don't tend to get lowered again. The SNP has shown it CAN win in Labour's backyard and the very fact of doing so will mean that next time more people will realise that they can win again and again, so the Labour "wasted vote if you vote SNP" tactic is totally useless now. The more the SNP advance, the more they gain momentum and credibility. One thing for sure, Labour are not going to have a good resut at the next UK general election. "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrax Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 you know i read these political threads every time and have came to the conclusion that no1 here actually knows or cares for politics. Although your statements are always just and correct I have came to the conclusion you are all using this as a plateau to use large words and make yourselves sound clever. with that in mind here is my addition to the conversation The SNP victory in the Glasgow East by-election does appear to be a substancial push forward on the way to scottish nationalism and individualistic diplomacy. I would just hope that we do not turn into a miniature totalitarian state in which we distance ourselves so much from Westminster that we burn all social bridges with our neighbours. Although other countries who have went down the road of parliamentary independance have flourished it is not to say that we should pack up our excrement and leave. We may not at this time be ready to go it alone and may need the extra few years of holding on to the proverbial hand on Westminster before taking our spherical sporting object and heading back to our clansman domicile a la Holyrood. As stated by Salmond, McNeill et al, change is on the horizon. It may however need a bit of time and perseverance before the change is noticable. I'm smart and I want respect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonjag Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 you know i read these political threads every time and have came to the conclusion that no1 here actually knows or cares for politics. Although your statements are always just and correct I have came to the conclusion you are all using this as a plateau to use large words and make yourselves sound clever. with that in mind here is my addition to the conversation The SNP victory in the Glasgow East by-election does appear to be a substancial push forward on the way to scottish nationalism and individualistic diplomacy. I would just hope that we do not turn into a miniature totalitarian state in which we distance ourselves so much from Westminster that we burn all social bridges with our neighbours. Although other countries who have went down the road of parliamentary independance have flourished it is not to say that we should pack up our excrement and leave. We may not at this time be ready to go it alone and may need the extra few years of holding on to the proverbial hand on Westminster before taking our spherical sporting object and heading back to our clansman domicile a la Holyrood. As stated by Salmond, McNeill et al, change is on the horizon. It may however need a bit of time and perseverance before the change is noticable. Did you plagiarise one of SPARROT'S splurges and throw in the spelling mistakes as a smoke screen? First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they pretend to befriend you, then you win! YER BARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 The natural pessimist in me is slowly but surely being overtaken by an excited wee optimist. If you're up there God, please make this the real thing and not another false dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrax Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Did you plagiarise one of SPARROT'S splurges and throw in the spelling mistakes as a smoke screen? ill has you no that SPARROT had no input whatsoever in my statemont. The speling mistakes where not that of a smok screen but that of a test...soley for you Mj. I know how much it iritates you and your OCD...or is it ADD you have?? I'm smart and I want respect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmonaton Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 this is probably one of the final nails in Brown's coffin.no one can say it hasn't been deserved.they have became the "smug party",we have now created a dangerous situation in Scotland.the SNP are not as great as some make out.ok they have done a reasonable job,scoring brownie points from easy targets,eg free bridge tolls.the main problem we now have all the other parties are so weak,that there is no competition in bollywood any more.aye it's a sad day for the Labour party.serves thm right for being so fcking smug,thinking they could just turn up and win.as for Margaret Curran.i have never heard so much shte being spouted since thatcher.she was the most embarrassing candiitate that Labour could have picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowshed_warrior Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 yyyyyeeeeessssssssss... thank f***... the working class (if only there was work though eh !) people have NOT had a political party in 20 years to call their own, hopefully people are now starting to realize that if countries like latvia, serbia, ireland,bosnia, etc etc can survive with after independance then SO CAN WE, and we could possibly make a better a job of it, as our country is richer than these... hopefully some day my life long dream will come true, and I can present my SCOTTISH passport to the wee man at border control, instead of that rotten british one.... f*** off britania.......... we dont want you. There are some questions that are too important, some truths too powerful, some messages too liberating, that they can never be heard for fear they might actually provide you with the freedom you desire and that 'they' then lose the dependence you have on them and for which they are rewarded. They lose the hold they have over you which keeps you spellbound and feeds their ego, their hunger for power and their raison d'etre. - Think for Yourself, Ask Your own questions, Do Your own research! ...... Set Yourselves Free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 You know what, I'm going to come out and admit I was impressed by the Tory candidate in this by-election and I've got a growing respect for Annabel Goldie as a politician. Of course I'd never vote for either of them in a million years, but they ran a good, effective and positive campaign. It speaks volumes though that despite that there is still absolutely no sign of the 'Cameron effect' that's sweeping through England moving up to Scotland. They are and will remain a complete irrelevence in Scotland while we are part of the UK. Ironically I think independence would be good for them, they could be a real force to be reckoned with in an independent Scotland where they would be freed from the Thatcher legacy and fill the right-of-centre void that currently exists in Scottish politics. I wonder if some of the more free-thinking and enlightened Scottish Tories are starting to think along the same lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonjag Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 ill has you no that SPARROT had no input whatsoever in my statemont. The speling mistakes where not that of a smok screen but that of a test...soley for you Mj. I know how much it iritates you and your OCD...or is it ADD you have?? It only really irritates me when grand and flowery language is littered with spelling mistakes. For example-'I think the S.N.P are doing a reely great job' wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Although other countries who have went down the road of parliamentary independance have flourished it is not to say that we should pack up our excrement and leave. That does! Sorry Thrax-I'm an old fud-I know it, but it just doesn't wash with me! this is probably one of the final nails in Brown's coffin.no one can say it hasn't been deserved.they have became the "smug party",we have now created a dangerous situation in Scotland.the SNP are not as great as some make out.ok they have done a reasonable job,scoring brownie points from easy targets,eg free bridge tolls.the main problem we now have all the other parties are so weak,that there is no competition in bollywood any more.aye it's a sad day for the Labour party.serves thm right for being so fcking smug,thinking they could just turn up and win.as for Margaret Curran.i have never heard so much shte being spouted since thatcher.she was the most embarrassing candiitate that Labour could have picked. Agreed-Curran is KEECH supreme! First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they pretend to befriend you, then you win! YER BARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrax Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 It only really irritates me when grand and flowery language is littered with spelling mistakes. For example-'I think the S.N.P are doing a reely great job' wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Although other countries who have went down the road of parliamentary independance have flourished it is not to say that we should pack up our excrement and leave. That does! Sorry Thrax-I'm an old fud-I know it, but it just doesn't wash with me! i think the fact that my "grand and flowery" language was all in jest should prove thats not the way i normally speak, hence the spelling and grammar mistakes I'm smart and I want respect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonjag Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 i think the fact that my "grand and flowery" language was all in jest should prove thats not the way i normally speak, hence the spelling and grammar mistakes Excellent-I shall be keeping an eye on you! First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they pretend to befriend you, then you win! YER BARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydoc Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 SNP supporters should thank New Labour's Welfare Secretary, James Purcell, for his part in this excellent victory. Population in Glasgow East is 89,300 10,000 people on income support or incapacity benefit Over 25's claiming Jobseekers Allowance is 10% (this does not include 'under 25's' and people on 'New Deal'. It also does not include unemployed people with more than £8,000 in the bank and people whose wife/husband/live-in lover work more than 30 hours. Despite being unemployed, these people are not eligible for Jobseekers Allowance and do not appear in any official figures) In reality, more than half the population of Glasgow East are without work and James Purcell, this week, unveiled Labours plans for a Welfare shake-up. These plans include, scrapping incapacity benefit and income support, in favour of a new scheme, in which only the severely disabled will be able to avoid work. Labour also plans to force people on Jobseekers Allowance to work, full-time, for their 'dole money', for no extra cash. The plan is to instigate a trial in three areas, Glasgow East, being one of them. The SNP are against these policies. A 22.54 swing in the votes in favour of SNP and nearly 4% more voted in this by-election than at the last election, it's easy to see why. Thank you James Purcell. The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes, everything else is opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RankinBorn75 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Warning .. imminent Newton Post warning !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest midTONs Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 You know what, I'm going to come out and admit I was impressed by the Tory candidate in this by-election and I've got a growing respect for Annabel Goldie as a politician. Of course I'd never vote for either of them in a million years, but they ran a good, effective and positive campaign. It speaks volumes though that despite that there is still absolutely no sign of the 'Cameron effect' that's sweeping through England moving up to Scotland. They are and will remain a complete irrelevence in Scotland while we are part of the UK. Ironically I think independence would be good for them, they could be a real force to be reckoned with in an independent Scotland where they would be freed from the Thatcher legacy and fill the right-of-centre void that currently exists in Scottish politics. I wonder if some of the more free-thinking and enlightened Scottish Tories are starting to think along the same lines? Ive been saying that for years now and always got slated, Annabel Goldie is the one Tory Ive always had a little bit of time for. In an Independent Scotland I would wipe the slate clean with all political parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Edwards Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 You know what, I'm going to come out and admit I was impressed by the Tory candidate in this by-election and I've got a growing respect for Annabel Goldie as a politician. Of course I'd never vote for either of them in a million years, but they ran a good, effective and positive campaign. It speaks volumes though that despite that there is still absolutely no sign of the 'Cameron effect' that's sweeping through England moving up to Scotland. They are and will remain a complete irrelevence in Scotland while we are part of the UK. Ironically I think independence would be good for them, they could be a real force to be reckoned with in an independent Scotland where they would be freed from the Thatcher legacy and fill the right-of-centre void that currently exists in Scottish politics. I wonder if some of the more free-thinking and enlightened Scottish Tories are starting to think along the same lines? I always thought you were a Tartan Tory, Trois Maisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTon Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Warning .. imminent Newton Post warning !! Gidday RankinBorn75, Wot would you like me to post ? That Alibi could/should stand as a SNP candidate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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