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#41 TRVMP

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 01:06 PM

Couldn't have put it better myself, except to say that the heights he did hit with Barcelona were otherworldly and a joy to watch. I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth here.

Looking forward to Germany absolutely mauling Mexico later.

Now before Gavin goes, I'd like to ask him one more question.


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#42 TaunTon

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 02:03 PM

Is it just me being grumpy or have most of the games been totally underwhelming* (Spn/Por excepted). 

 

 

* for underwhelming substitute sh1t.



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Posted 17 June 2018 - 02:08 PM

Contrast Santos' organisation of Portugal against Sampaoli's management of Argentina. Santos has one of the two best players in the world at his disposal but he doesn't try to build the team round him; he plays to the strengths of the defence and midfield as a whole, trusting that the star player will deliver within the framework of the team, and Ronaldo does to a ridiculously high standard because he's so fucking good.

Sampaoli has one of the two best players in the world and makes no attempt to set up his side to the strengths of the rest of the players, instead basing everything around Messi and the quality attackers around him in the hope their individual brilliance will make up for frailties of the defence and midfield. This allows teams to double on Messi and entirely nullify Argentina, as you saw yesterday when every single time an Argentina player was in space they were looking for the pass to Messi over far more obvious passes no matter how crowded out he was, because they've been taught to be dependent on him.

This isn't just bad for Argentina or their other forwards whose considerable talent is wasted, it's bad for Messi because it guarantees that he'll get no space and he has no opportunity to do anything at all from open play, only ever picking up the ball with two players right beside him or with two banks of four in front of him. Sampaoli's determination to depend on Messi is what's wasting him and ruining Argentina's chances.

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#44 TaunTon

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 03:38 PM


Looking forward to Germany absolutely mauling Mexico later.

 

Mexico will be happy if Germany keep mauling them like this  ;)

 

Some Teutonic improvement needed. 



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Posted 17 June 2018 - 03:48 PM

Raging

Now before Gavin goes, I'd like to ask him one more question.


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#46 TaunTon

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 03:53 PM

Aye. Noisy neighbours can be a pain  :lol:



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Posted 17 June 2018 - 04:03 PM

It's eerily quiet tbf, although I imagine 45 minutes from now the neighborhood will be alive with pickup trucks trailing flags and playing norteno music. And to be fair if they pull off the win they deserve it. Germany have been atrocious and so tentative.

Now before Gavin goes, I'd like to ask him one more question.


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 04:04 PM

It's eerily quiet tbf, although I imagine 45 minutes from now the neighborhood will be alive with pickup trucks trailing flags and playing norteno music. And to be fair if they pull off the win they deserve it. Germany have been atrocious and so tentative.

 

I thought you were building a wall.  :blink:


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 04:16 PM

There are around 40 million Mexican-Americans, a healthy majority are here legally (most of these are citizens), and not subject to immurement.

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#50 TaunTon

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 04:51 PM

Arriba Arriba. Viva Mexico  :drink:


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 04:55 PM

The Germans fall short at Moscow yet again. 

 

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 04:58 PM

Well done to Mexico, Germany can have absolutely no complaints. Lozano is some player on his day.

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 07:56 PM

Brazil were absolutely pish there. They created very little and their decision making in the final third was absolutely abysmal. Switzerland deserved their point but they don’t look like anything special either.

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 07:59 PM

This is why I'm still stunned that Brazil were the bookies' favorites in the UK. I know it's based on the book and a lot of mug punters always put a tenner on them regardless but they've been ordinary for years and their run of form leading up to the tournament, while quite good, depended on very narrow margins. Semis at best for them.

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#55 vikingTON

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 08:01 PM

Three full days of action - as well as Thursday's exhibition match - and the only European side to have lost to assorted, gubbins 'rest of the world' opposition is Germany. 


The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before..

So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 08:25 PM

Three full days of action - as well as Thursday's exhibition match - and the only European side to have lost to assorted, gubbins 'rest of the world' opposition is Germany.


See Italia 90 when favourites Argentina were beaten 1-0 by Cameroon in the opening game, a lot of people were quick to write them off on the basis of that game, but they still made it to the final only losing out to late penalty from Andreas Bremhe.

I wouldn't be quick to discount Germany, they will make the semis at the very least.
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Posted 17 June 2018 - 08:37 PM

See Italia 90 when favourites Argentina were beaten 1-0 by Cameroon in the opening game, a lot of people were quick to write them off on the basis of that game, but they still made it to the final only losing out to late penalty from Andreas Bremhe.

I wouldn't be quick to discount Germany, they will make the semis at the very least.

 

I don't think they'll go far at all unless they drop Ozil - who is largely dining out on what he was good at eight years ago - and find more directness to their play. Having to throw on Mario Gomez to try and salvage the game is a collective minter for that nation.

 

The conclusion that we can make from the games so far is that European football continues to stomp all over its rivals - with South America's biggest threats being held by second-rate teams and the usual hipster's choice teams like Nigeria being effortlessly swatted aside. The sooner that qualification becomes an open play-off format*, the better for not having the likes of Costa Rica showing as much ambition as Brechin City in the second tier. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*like the plan for a '48 team' World Cup, only with the play-offs being held the previous November instead of at the tournament itself


The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before..

So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are


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Posted 19 June 2018 - 12:07 PM

Cracking start to Colombia v Japan. Red card/pen/goal to Nippon. Could be fun today



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Posted 19 June 2018 - 12:42 PM

Good open game but dodgy ref gifted a free kick to Col which was well dispatched. Much more entertaining than most games so far. 

 

HT 1-1


Edited by TaunTon, 19 June 2018 - 12:52 PM.


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Posted 19 June 2018 - 01:31 PM

Jpn get a well deserved 2nd. 

 

FT 2-1 to Jpn. Much the better side in the 2nd with the fancied Colombia doing nothing. If Colombians still shoot their failures then a few of these guys must be hoping that Moscow Duty Free do bullet proof vests.


Edited by TaunTon, 19 June 2018 - 01:55 PM.