vikingTON Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 And of the eight you suggested, Cham, Kelbie and Bell (despite only making a quarter of the number of appearances) all actually managed to score for the club while Wallace wasn’t a forward. So you’ve got Toto, Donnelly, Sabajo and Orsi, with only Toto being beyond debate as a worse player. Except that only you are clutching onto goals scored as the sole metric for success. Your subsequent conclusion that Kevin Kelbie cannot possibly make the worst team of the decade owing to his, err, one goal in a Challenge Cup tie against a Ross County B team is utterly ridiculous and means that we can safely file the rest of your rubbish, foot stomping 'point' in the bin where it belongs. And that's before we bring out the clincher: while Andrew Dallas was indeed a piss poor forward, he actually did make a contribution to the club - in the most important game of the entire decade. On 20 April 2019 he came on as a sub against 'Falkirk' after a goalless first half hour much to collective dismay. It turned out however that he did his job perfectly well as part of a glorious team swording that sent that horrible rabble down to the abyss where they now permanently reside. No player who made a contribution to that magnificent event - and unlike certain members of the 13/14 squad, didn't immediately blot it out by getting relegated in the most abject manner possible - can possibly be placed in the worst three forwards of this or indeed any other decade. These are facts. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clydeview Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Barrie McKay, Stuart Findlay and Lawrence Shankland all went on to play for Scotland, you insufferable fuckwit. And where are these guys playing their club football? Being a fringe Scotland player is not a great achievement these days. They were all loan players too? Shouldn’t even count... I certainly didn’t consider loan players. In previous decades we had players that went on to play for big clubs in England. Millar did brilliantly for himself at St Johnstone, the peak of where he was capable of playing. Sadly we got him back when St Johnstone thought he was done... they were correct. "When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 And where are these guys playing their club football? Being a fringe Scotland player is not a great achievement these days. They were all loan players too? Shouldn’t even count... I certainly didn’t consider loan players. In previous decades we had players that went on to play for big clubs in England. Millar did brilliantly for himself at St Johnstone, the peak of where he was capable of playing. Sadly we got him back when St Johnstone thought he was done... they were correct. Absolutely none of this is relevant to what said in your original point/trolling attempt. You said none of them went on to play at "a good level". Three of them have played international football (four if you include that wee rat Bachirou), it's pretty much the biggest honour a player can get in the game. You moving the goalposts and setting your own wee set of rules as to which player is applicable for what was in actual fact an all encompassing swipe doesn't cut it I'm afraid. No wonder the weans despise you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clydeview Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Gaston Pepper Greacen Gunning Lamie Forbes Bachirou Tidser Hardie Weatherson McDonald Would agree with quite a few of this selection. A lack of pace in midfield, but choices are limited! Lindsay and Imrie were decent too. Peaso was a class player... and Weatherson has to be there for his scoring record. "When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Centre back pairing of Gunning and Shimmin. Oft. TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Except that only you are clutching onto goals scored as the sole metric for success. Your subsequent conclusion that Kevin Kelbie cannot possibly make the worst team of the decade owing to his, err, one goal in a Challenge Cup tie against a Ross County B team is utterly ridiculous and means that we can safely file the rest of your rubbish, foot stomping 'point' in the bin where it belongs. And that's before we bring out the clincher: while Andrew Dallas was indeed a piss poor forward, he actually did make a contribution to the club - in the most important game of the entire decade. On 20 April 2019 he came on as a sub against 'Falkirk' after a goalless first half hour much to collective dismay. It turned out however that he did his job perfectly well as part of a glorious team swording that sent that horrible rabble down to the abyss where they now permanently reside. No player who made a contribution to that magnificent event - and unlike certain members of the 13/14 squad, didn't immediately blot it out by getting relegated in the most abject manner possible - can possibly be placed in the worst three forwards of this or indeed any other decade. These are facts. As I said goals are not the only way to judge a forward, but Andrew Dallas was obviously consistently terrible in his all round play as well. The goals illustrate that some other awful players did manage to at least do something right once or twice. I do think Kevin Kelbie makes the worst team of the decade despite his largely irrelevant goal, but he makes it alongside Andrew Dallas. Complaining about ‘ridiculous’ points and saying you can’t use examples of players scoring once or twice to support an argument that they’re not quite as useless as Dallas, while simultaneously arguing that Dallas must be better than them for simply being on the pitch for an hour in one game against a rabble which finished bottom, where like every other appearance Dallas made Kiltie was carrying the attack. Serious cognitive dissonance there. Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Would agree with quite a few of this selection. A lack of pace in midfield, but choices are limited! Lindsay and Imrie were decent too. Peaso was a class player... and Weatherson has to be there for his scoring record. Weatherson’s league scoring record this decade was 18 goals in 107 appearances (71 starts, 36 as sub). A goals to game ratio of 0.17, or 0.25 if you go goals to starts alone. Admittedly a few of those games were back in defence as he had a brief run there in 11/12 when Moore’s defensive recruitment was terrible, but he was at centre forward for the majority of that time. Even lop off another 10 appearances to account for being shunted back to defence sometimes and it’s 0.31 per start, 0.19 overall. In addition to Peaso, Brian Graham, David Witteveen, Derek Lyle, Archie Campbell, Dougie Imrie, Rowan Vine (), Denny Johnstone, Declan McManus (even discounting 14/15), Lawrence Shankland, Bob McHugh and Greg Kiltie all have better scoring records than his actual totals. Lyle, Imrie, Vine and McManus the only ones of those poorer than the figure I’ve adjusted to be better for Weatherson on account of his sometimes playing in defence. Obviously goals aren’t everything and no one is going to argue Weatherson isn’t more deserving of a place than the majority of players listed there, but his goalscoring record this decade really wasn’t much to shout about. Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 As I said goals are not the only way to judge a forward, but Andrew Dallas was obviously consistently terrible in his all round play as well. The goals illustrate that some other awful players did manage to at least do something right once or twice. I do think Kevin Kelbie makes the worst team of the decade despite his largely irrelevant goal, but he makes it alongside Andrew Dallas. Complaining about ‘ridiculous’ points and saying you can’t use examples of players scoring once or twice to support an argument that they’re not quite as useless as Dallas, while simultaneously arguing that Dallas must be better than them for simply being on the pitch for an hour in one game against a rabble which finished bottom, where like every other appearance Dallas made Kiltie was carrying the attack. Serious cognitive dissonance there. ^^^ word salad Dallas wasn’t terrible and in fact played quite well in the only game that mattered in his spell at the club: the one that sent Grangemouth and their full knot of snakes into the abyss where they belong. This makes your entire case against him invalid when there have been a parade of equally dung players who have absolutely nothing of value to show for their spells with the club. Better luck next time. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 The correct answer to the question is as follows: Ramsbottom McCormack Page Milojevic Fitzpatrick Blues Dykes Wallace Simmonds Cham Orsi The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 NB: Would the £15k that we supposedly paid for Wallace be the largest transfer (including development) fee that the club paid this decade? The sheer waste of resources on such a dung player is why he has to make the team; ditto Dykes with that inexplicable eighteen month contract while senior players in the squad were getting dinghied. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealTonKid Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Weatherson’s league scoring record this decade was 18 goals in 107 appearances (71 starts, 36 as sub). A goals to game ratio of 0.17, or 0.25 if you go goals to starts alone. Admittedly a few of those games were back in defence as he had a brief run there in 11/12 when Moore’s defensive recruitment was terrible, but he was at centre forward for the majority of that time. Even lop off another 10 appearances to account for being shunted back to defence sometimes and it’s 0.31 per start, 0.19 overall. In addition to Peaso, Brian Graham, David Witteveen, Derek Lyle, Archie Campbell, Dougie Imrie, Rowan Vine ( ), Denny Johnstone, Declan McManus (even discounting 14/15), Lawrence Shankland, Bob McHugh and Greg Kiltie all have better scoring records than his actual totals. Lyle, Imrie, Vine and McManus the only ones of those poorer than the figure I’ve adjusted to be better for Weatherson on account of his sometimes playing in defence. Obviously goals aren’t everything and no one is going to argue Weatherson isn’t more deserving of a place than the majority of players listed there, but his goalscoring record this decade really wasn’t much to shout about. Weatherson would be in my noughties team, along with Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Weatherson would be in my noughties team, along with Williams. Nothing says ‘best strikers of the decade’ quite like finishing 4th and 3rd in the seaside league behind Dumbarton, Brechin and Stranraer. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca937 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Centre back pairing of Gunning and Shimmin. Oft. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Imrie was a far better player than Weatherson this decade and it's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Look at the contortions just to avoid acknowledging Chris Millar had a good post-Morton career. Brian Graham and Jim McAllister also had good post-Morton careers. *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I said this at the time. Dallas had ability, but the jump in physicality from the development league was just too much for him. I get VT’s point but I wouldn’t bat an eyelid if he was in most people’s worst teams, regardless of the point above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I said this at the time. Dallas had ability, but the jump in physicality from the development league was just too much for him. I get VT’s point but I wouldn’t bat an eyelid if he was in most people’s worst teams, regardless of the point above. Your ‘respectful’ disagreement means absolutely nothing to me nor to the Rafa Benitez approved facts involved in this case. Picking some generic jobber over the likes of Cham - the attacking spearhead for the worst campaign in the club’s modern history (outside of administration) - or Donovan ‘SPL’ Simmonds - an even bigger downgrade from Brian Wake than the Forbes/Barrowman swap of the century - is simply wrong on a cellular level. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Cham gave us Paisley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Relegating Grangemouth and a full knot of snakes to the seaside leagues on their own, horrible, three sided midden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A Winning a (now defunct) ‘Renfrewshire Cup final’ against the spoon burners The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappiecat 1.2 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Aren't you all jumping the gun here? 31st December 2020 is the end of the decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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