Madton Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I think that this information vindicates Jonaton Johannson completely in terms of his truthfulness. How he manages the team is of course a different and separate matter. I'm not so sure. The way i read it, JJ was using it as some sort of excuse and indicating the budget was being cut there and then, i.e for Jan! Our playing budget will be very similar today as it was on the 31st of August going by the players who left and came in. It may well be cut in the Summer, well going by today, it certainly will be, but the current budget shouldn't be a hindrance to JJ doing his job well which he is clearly not doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 You can't run a football team by cutting an already thin squad a few weeks in to the season. If Johansson was hired with the instructions to trim the squad and rely on non-existent youth players and loanees then there isn't any question that the club is being wound down. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 GC is not getting more than a tiny fraction of that debt under any circumstances and their directors will know that fine well; it is irrelevant to the bidding process then. GC aren't going let the club stack up even more worthless IOUs in the meantime though which is the real point of this interview. Which, from the perspective of the (majority) of the Rae family and shareholders who don't care about Morton, is perfectly reasonable. The part that sticks in the craw is that it comes less than a year after the announcement of a three-year plan. Surely Crawford has to have known that the rest of the GC board wouldn't be up for that? It's looking increasingly like he was either thinking wishfully or just telling fans what they wanted to hear. And in my case it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdc Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Surely Crawford has to have known that the rest of the GC board wouldn't be up for that? I'm not sure who is on the board at GC but I don't think that the board is the issue as such. It's more about the way DDF's death affected the shares held in - and therefore the structure of/influence on decision-making in - GC. In other words, my reading of it is that the voices who are now (as you say, rightly from their own perspective) less keen to prop up the club weren't (as) relevant at the time when the club announced its three year plan and only became significant after the fact. Of course, whether or not that was foreseeable, and could better have been planned for, is another thing - something for someone to ask at an AGM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The latter, for sure. TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I'm not sure who is on the board at GC but I don't think that the board is the issue as such. It's more about the way DDF's death affected the shares held in - and therefore the structure of/influence on decision-making in - GC. In other words, my reading of it is that the voices who are now (as you say, rightly from their own perspective) less keen to prop up the club weren't (as) relevant at the time when the club announced its three year plan and only became significant after the fact. Of course, whether or not that was foreseeable, and could better have been planned for, is another thing - something for someone to ask at an AGM. Yeah, not the board as much as the shareholders, sure, but the point remains - he really should have seen this coming. From the point of view of the business, ultimately he managed to get a lot of fan buy-in over the summer and a healthy ST sales, but at what cost to the ongoing goodwill of the fanbase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy66 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Its went full circle the club is back where it was in the early 70s & has been in decline for the last 3 or 4 Year's since that Hampden Day against Aberdeen.. I don't think it will return to Day's like that & it shall find its proper place in the lower reaches of Scottish Football.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargsTON Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Its went full circle the club is back where it was in the early 70s & has been in decline for the last 3 or 4 Year's since that Hampden Day against Aberdeen.. I don't think it will return to Day's like that & it shall find its proper place in the lower reaches of Scottish Football.. I'd say it's been on the decline since some idiot started a stupid thread about how great a feeling it was down Cappielow way... "CORNBEEF IS A BELLEND" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy66 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I'd say it's been on the decline since some idiot started a stupid thread about how great a feeling it was down Cappielow way... Yip canny argue with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malt Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Feel like we are going to go back to the McGraw days. Just stay mid table and sell a few players and do fuck all with the money. Why did the Rae family never focus on break even/profitability from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Because it was a pipe dream project. One in which Crawford has been sucked into. This isnt his hobby; it was his dad's. TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 We're not going to be sustainable off transfer fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Feel like we are going to go back to the McGraw days. Just stay mid table and sell a few players and do **** all with the money. Why did the Rae family never focus on break even/profitability from day one. That's the most basic thing in all of this. What the fuck were they up to for the last few decades if they weren't, by their own admission, trying to run it as a proper business? I know that it doesn't always go to plan in football and that no matter how much you try you might still make a loss and all the rest, but bloody hell...whilst it's not unreasonable for them to say they don't want to keep throwing money at it, it's a bit of a brass neck to start shouting about running the club like a business at this stage of the game. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Anyone else all out of energy to even care that much? TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargsTON Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 We're not going to be sustainable off transfer fees. Sustainability can only be achieved in the top league despite the prize money for finishing in the top 4 being around about the same figure as our average annual loss. Wages are vastly reduced from previous years yet we still plead poverty. The sums don't stack up. "CORNBEEF IS A BELLEND" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLTON Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Bring a Friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malt Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 So the plan of getting. Promoted in three years out the window so, what is the ambition at the club? Mid table? Avoid relegation? Get a few players through and sell them on? How many players we sold in 18 year? 2? And a total of £80k Was all quiet on money in for Tiffoney etc which I suspect was fuck all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 So the plan of getting. Promoted in three years out the window so, what is the ambition at the club? Mid table? Avoid relegation? Get a few players through and sell them on? How many players we sold in 18 year? 2? And a total of £80k Was all quiet on money in for Tiffoney etc which I suspect was **** all. Making it attractive to buyers by the looks of it. I said earlier but the main points for me is he wants to keep us full time, is open to investment and wants to make sure we break even. All not bad things in isolation. It's pretty disappointing after the optimism at the staty of the season but I still believe he has the clubs interests at heart but just doesn't have a way of covering losses so he's keeping it running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Surely the first man out the door should be iron man. I take it the super duper turnstiles have paid for themselves, and the thousands of folk who were illegally paying in as concessions are now paying the £20 entry? Or were they a total waste of money, just like the Love Street stand that’s rotting somewhere, and having a head of security that can’t keep away fans off the pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malt Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The Turnstiles was, is and will remain a complete non essential purchase along with the love street stand, Kieran McAnespie, the other failed transfers and high wages and is all biting us in the arse now. We are in no way attractive to buyers. It took st Mirren a lifetime to sell a club who have won a major trophy, been in the premiership, new stadium and everything we could only dream of so making Morton ‘attractive’ is going to take some doing. Three year plan being binned clearly shows we have no plan of being in the premiership and Maybe we have now seen why Ray McKinnon left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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