TRVMP Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 And Russell has regressed hugely from the player once scouted by major English clubs. Wouldn't be the least bit bothered if we lost him now, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he recovered his career elsewhere because we know he can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaunTon Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Oliver and Jai are good. McHugh and Thomson are not. Jai needs to show he can play regularly or whatever promise he has will be headed to the seaside league. McHugh can only be a last 10 min sub at best and Thomson really needs to demonstrate that he's more than a wage thief. As for Russell, he's been drinking in the last chance saloon for far too long. No point being excellent in training when you consistently fail to deliver when it counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Toon Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 A fit Quitongo is certainly worth keeping. He is a natural crowd pleaser and doesn't give opposing defences a moments peace. As yet he lacks composure both in front of goal and in his propensity to pick up silly yellow cards. If he stays and Ray sorts out those weaknesses he could yet either be a very valuable player and/or move for a good sum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLTON Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 https://www.transfermarkt.com/scottish-premiership/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/SC1 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish-championship/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/SC2 out of any of these players that have been released would you take at cappielow....obviously being realistic Cardle and Keith Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Toon Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Kenny Miller would probably be unrealistic unless he came as player/assistant manager. If that was possible then a great signing I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex manning Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Strapp deserved to play more last season before Iredale came on the scene. Happy he's on board for this year. Russell is an enigma, and id probably not be too disheartened if he walked away. I want a pretentious signature too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 As he is mentioned on the official site as being part of the first time squad, I'm adding him to the original post. Also says it brings our first team squad to 14. Most of us would see it as 11 really (12 at a push, but still really class Strapp as a development player). I hope Armour, Langan and Strapp are included but as part of the 4, not the main 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Definitely 18 plus 4 or 18 inclusive? TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Definitely 18 plus 4 or 18 inclusive? McKinnon said 18 complemented by 4 youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Gary Miller signs for Carlisle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barmyboy Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Gary Miller signs for Carlisle. not suprised he has stayed down south, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Russell taking an age to decide. Not performed consistently enough since League 1. We need an upgrade if we're to challenge. Russell played consistently well in our first season back in the Championship (winning a couple of fan poty awards I'm sure). He got off to a very good start to the following season as well. So it's not true to say that it's been since League One. A patchy 18 months though, certainly. Messing with his position has been a big problem. He's been terrible at left midfield (and cente mid!), and I don't think that helped his drop in form. I actually think he played pretty well at left back over the last few months, but never got a decent run there. In his last game at left back he was excellent - it's easy to forget that when he's then played in three different roles in his next three matches. We've got Iredale so it would be tough for him, but he's a good left back at this level. I'd actually say his only really poor run at left back was over the end of the 16/17 season, and patchy form there at the start of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdc Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Russell played consistently well in our first season back in the Championship (winning a couple of fan poty awards I'm sure). He got off to a very good start to the following season as well. So it's not true to say that it's been since League One. A patchy 18 months though, certainly. Messing with his position has been a big problem. He's been terrible at left midfield (and cente mid!), and I don't think that helped his drop in form. I actually think he played pretty well at left back over the last few months, but never got a decent run there. In his last game at left back he was excellent - it's easy to forget that when he's then played in three different roles in his next three matches. We've got Iredale so it would be tough for him, but he's a good left back at this level. I'd actually say his only really poor run at left back was over the end of the 16/17 season, and patchy form there at the start of last season. Didn’t see enough of the season just past to comment but I agree about the season’s previous to that. He’s an underrated defender I think, which can be lost when his confidence going forward takes a dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deego Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 His body has changed quite a bit in the last couple of seasons as well which never seems to get mentioned. His pace and mobility appear to have suffered as a result of any weight he's added. I wonder if the new sports science stuff could see an improvement in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Russell still deciding. Interest from other clubs. Commenting on the fact that Duffy didn't seem to know his best position and wasn't keen on being moved around. http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/morton/16297090.Morton_star_takes_time_to_weigh_up_options/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 Having read that, I hope he leaves, not least because McKinnon isn't sure where he'd accommodate him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bewilderedbeast Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Russell still deciding. Interest from other clubs.Commenting on the fact that Duffy didn't seem to know his best position and wasn't keen on being moved around.http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/morton/16297090.Morton_star_takes_time_to_weigh_up_options/ Bit in last nights Tele, (haven't read it) but headline is saying that McKinnon is putting a deadline in place for players still to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I'm fully in agreement with SpoonTon's view on this: Russell's decline started 18 months ago when Duffy moved him to midfield, it killed his confidence and he's never really recovered. If he can get a full pre-season knowing he's going to be a left back followed by a run of games there I'm hopeful we can see the same player return, but with Iredale and Strapp signed up it wouldn't be a massive surprise to see him go. The only way he's going to fit in as a first choice left back is if McKinnon decides to use Iredale at centre back, where we've rarely seen him. His comments about taking his time over an offer don't bother me, it's just realistic honesty which every player will think about and is hardly comparable to O'Ware's admission that he thought he was too good for us, which explains why his attitude was so appalling throughout last season. Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneCornetto Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Bit in last nights Tele, (haven't read it) but headline is saying that McKinnon is putting a deadline in place for players still to sign. Good to hear, some players really need to realise what they have at Morton. Am I right in thinking Stef McCluskey spent too long considering his options for Duffy? now playing for Pollok juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Toon Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 The other issue is, of course the compensation which we would be due. That could affect the offers he might get from others. Ray has said he wants competition in every position and Russell at his best would certainly merit staying. Interesting that he doesn't have a preferred position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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