JimJam Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Ian Munro in the mid 1990s left Hamilton for St.Mirren and within a short space of time left them to manage Raith Rovers. He was never officially St Mirren manager mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Ian Munro in the mid 1990s left Hamilton for St.Mirren and within a short space of time left them to manage Raith Rovers. In the same cycle (for want of a better word) Tommy McLean left the Raith job to go to Dundee United after about a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bewilderedbeast Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I can't remember any similar cases so they'll need to do something to stop it happening again. As someone said earlier (I think!), imagine it was Aberdeen and Rangers or something. Said that right the beginning, the whole footballing country would have been in melt down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Sure celtic had to pay 250k for Burns when they tapped him up from Killie? Edit: (bheasts) TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I'm sure it was £250k for both him and Stark. Incidentally, they also signed Pat Bonner for Kilmarnock in that same close season, then re-signed him for Celtic after they joined. *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca937 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Wtf is happening with this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 £60k fine https://twitter.com/HDewarSport/status/1090974722408488961?s=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Do Morton get any compensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Do Morton get any compensation? While I don't understand why, today's tribunal ruling wasn't to do with compensation to Morton, but rather Falkirk's egregious, glib and shameless breaching of league rules. But the tribunal seems very confident that McKinnon and Taylor did breach contracts that had a set duration. (Graeme Henderson - who, by the way, looks like a freakish avian experiment - apparently did not have a contract of a set duration.) Accordingly we're entitled to the balance of those contracts, that were due to expire in May 2019. I expect the club to pursue that balance for McKinnon and Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargsTON Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 it says they can appeal i thought that was just in crinimal stuff Don't think in future, steve. "CORNBEEF IS A BELLEND" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Joe Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 From skimming through it it looks like there was no protection written into the contract for McKinnon resigning to take a position elsewhere. The recipricol for the employee to be relieved of their position to be entitled to the remaining contract sum to be payable, discounting gross misconduct. It sounded like a garbage contract, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 From skimming through it it looks like there was no protection written into the contract for McKinnon resigning to take a position elsewhere. The recipricol for the employee to be relieved of their position to be entitled to the remaining contract sum to be payable, discounting gross misconduct. It sounded like a garbage contract, basically. Doubt it's massively different from most one-year deals at this level tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJam Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I'd still like to know why he wanted to leave in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I'd still like to know why he wanted to leave in the first place. He was on the lookout for something better than the one-year deal he was on. A bigger club who were likely to spend big on fixing the disastrous Hartley appointment had a vacancy. His agent told Falkirk he wanted that job and could go there for nothing. Falkirk jumped at it and had a two-year deal on the table. Ray wanted a two-year deal to replace what was around 10 months remaining - probably on less money - at Cappielow. A complete no-brainer, and had Falkirk operated in a non-snake fashion (and Ray done likewise) the end result would have been either a new job for Ray at Grangemouth, or an improved deal for Ray and his team at Cappielow. Instead he snaked it and ended up getting the better deal, but at significant cost to his reputation and his new club. Wee shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I'd still like to know why he wanted to leave in the first place. Aye, that's what I struggle to get my head round to be honest. What the **** was his game, exactly? We now know he was on £60k a year or thereabouts - surely not buttons in the context of the Championship and certainly not derisory - he was able to put together a new squad, the club invested in the infrastructure at his behest and hired Henderson, he was being allowed to bring Rudden in and, going by the comments about his behaviour in the last week of the transfer window, maybe another couple on top, all at the same time as having got his team starting to click and sitting second top of the league (if memory serves) and looking in good nick. Why would you be tasking your agent with finding you a new job at that point? It's bizarre. If Falkirk had came in and said "here's a 2 year deal on £x and you can spend £z in January", you could just about understand it, but the way it all transpired, right down to the bizarre idea that you can just walk away from a contract, is weird. He's a fuckin tube, I hope him and his shitey wee club go bankrupt. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJam Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 He was on the lookout for something better than the one-year deal he was on. A bigger club who were likely to spend big on fixing the disastrous Hartley appointment had a vacancy. His agent told Falkirk he wanted that job and could go there for nothing. Falkirk jumped at it and had a two-year deal on the table. Ray wanted a two-year deal to replace what was around 10 months remaining - probably on less money - at Cappielow. A complete no-brainer, and had Falkirk operated in a non-snake fashion (and Ray done likewise) the end result would have been either a new job for Ray at Grangemouth, or an improved deal for Ray and his team at Cappielow. Instead he snaked it and ended up getting the better deal, but at significant cost to his reputation and his new club. Wee shame. Don't buy that. There must be more to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malt Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 So we made an arse of the contract like We did with players we would have expected compensation for...great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJam Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Aye, that's what I struggle to get my head round to be honest. What the **** was his game, exactly? We now know he was on £60k a year or thereabouts - surely not buttons in the context of the Championship and certainly not derisory - he was able to put together a new squad, the club invested in the infrastructure at his behest and hired Henderson, he was being allowed to bring Rudden in and, going by the comments about his behaviour in the last week of the transfer window, maybe another couple on top, all at the same time as having got his team starting to click and sitting second top of the league (if memory serves) and looking in good nick. Why would you be tasking your agent with finding you a new job at that point? It's bizarre. If Falkirk had came in and said "here's a 2 year deal on £x and you can spend £z in January", you could just about understand it, but the way it all transpired is just really weird. Yes. I just don't believe the explanation TRVMP just gave. He could have ended up not getting the Falkirk job and Morton sacking him for gross misconduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so72 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Don't buy that. There must be more to it. Of course it was the big bad Easdales and the son theyve forced into the team under the last 4 management teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 So we made an arse of the contract like We did with players we would have expected compensation for...great job. Did you even read the findings? Nothing suggests that, the exact opposite in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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