AJCTON Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 So today it would appear that two thirds of scottish football clubs have organised hooligans. Whats this about? Is it right enough that this is happening, find it hard to believe that this is rearing its head now but then we live in a mental world. Thoughts but i do find it hard to believe 28 clubs out of 42 organise fights and if thats the the case maybe the sfa should direct these guys towards organising the cup draw. I have no compunction in saying that if some chap starts throwing grenades or starts using pistols, we shall kill him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Back when I was even more impressionable and credulous than I am now I read some book full of badly written essays by 'hools', most of which contained at least four instances of the sentence "the lads were made up." Anyway, it had a little bestiary of firms at the end, which claimed among other things that Montrose had no fewer than four organized groups. I felt a bit cheated that it was at the end of the book because had they done the decent thing and put it at the start I'd have known the whole thing was absolute rubbish and saved myself the bother of reading it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJCTON Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 Personally I think it's just media and police pish. Hooliganism on a large scale is a thing of the past imo. The games in a sad state and yet scare stories like this come out. It's utter pish especially after watching the story on bbc. I have no compunction in saying that if some chap starts throwing grenades or starts using pistols, we shall kill him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I agree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaunTon Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Papers need to make money, police need to get some overtime. Times are hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Interesting that the BBC can categorically state that 28/42 clubs in this country have an organised hooligan element, yet they aren't prepared to say that Rangers died and were replaced by a phoenix club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappiecat Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Could it be that an organised hooligan element hounded Jim McInally out of Cappielow for being a Catholic? Maybe Spoton can answer this important question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Could it be that an organised hooligan element hounded Jim McInally out of Cappielow for being a Catholic? Maybe Spoton can answer this important question. Desperate attempt to get some greenies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Could it be that an organised hooligan element hounded Jim McInally out of Cappielow for being a Catholic? Maybe SpotTon can answer this important question. TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonInDublin Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Not sure about 28/42 - I'd have said between 15-20. And, in the bad old days, you were just a likely to get a slap at Montrose or Arbroath as you were at any team in the Premier League. (well maybe apart from Hearts/Airdrie/Kilmarnock and St Mirren !) Two Uniteds but the soul is one, as the Busby Babes carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Not sure about 28/42 - I'd have said between 15-20. And, in the bad old days, you were just a likely to get a slap at Montrose or Arbroath as you were at any team in the Premier League. (well maybe apart from Hearts/Airdrie/Kilmarnock and St Mirren !) Not in the 90s and not from four different organized firms you weren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonInDublin Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Yeah, that's fair enough Nacho. The 80's was very messy at most away grounds in Scotland. Montrose definitely had lads in those days, whether they had 4 separate mobs is debatable. Reminiscent of The People's Front Of Judea - splitters. Two Uniteds but the soul is one, as the Busby Babes carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJCTON Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 What I would like to know is this, if 28 clubs have this hooligan element why didn't the police or the bbc name them. Personally think it's utter rubbish. I have no compunction in saying that if some chap starts throwing grenades or starts using pistols, we shall kill him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I assume some flatulent desk hero with an IQ of around 90 was dispatched to Google around and found several semi-moribund messageboards from the mid 2000s and decided to count them as actual firms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonInDublin Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Yup, slow news day obviously. In other news, bears shit in woods. Two Uniteds but the soul is one, as the Busby Babes carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonInDublin Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Meant to add, AJCTON, in most cases the FCU know exactly who they are and where they are. It's not a great secret. Two Uniteds but the soul is one, as the Busby Babes carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappiecat Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Desperate attempt to get some greenies cheap laughs. FTFY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappiecat Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Not sure about 28/42 - I'd have said between 15-20. And, in the bad old days, you were just a likely to get a slap half brick to the head at Montrose Can't remember any of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamCam Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 "In the 1980's you had young men coming from urban areas into city centres to cause large scale disruption involving CS gas, petrol bombs and knives - a huge gang culture," explained Bradley Welsh, a once notorious casual who followed Hibernian. "What you have now is a bunch of young middle class lads wearing designer clothes and going along seeking high-jinx for self-esteem - there's a huge difference." I think all of us who attended football in the 1980's are not taking this revival too seriously. For a period casuals were part and parcel at just about every ground in Scotland. I believe the best take on the period was the badly written book by Jay Allan titled Bloody Casuals. He was one of the original Aberdeen 'crew' and the first Scottish casual to be jailed for football related violence. He only lists about a dozen mobs as being worthy of attention, including the Love Street Division who for certain fixtures (Aberdeen), the author, maintains had their ranks swelled by Rangers casuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 It's quite blatantly made up drivel. Police Scotland angling for a bigger budget and the BBC doing no research whatsoever. Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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