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Posted 22 February 2018 - 01:17 AM

Just looking at the scores as I watch Tauro-FC Dallas in the CONCACAF Champions League, and our neighbors in CONMEBOL are well underway in the Libertadores.

 

After 18 minutes, Jorge Wilstermann of Bolivia are 3-0 up against Vasco da Gama of Brazil in the third qualifying round.

 

That would be weird in itself, except Vasco won the first leg 4-0, with two goals in the last minute.

 

Football in the Americas may be lower quality than in Europe but results like this keep it very exciting.


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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:03 AM

Just looking at the scores as I watch Tauro-FC Dallas in the CONCACAF Champions League, and our neighbors in CONMEBOL are well underway in the Libertadores.

After 18 minutes, Jorge Wilstermann of Bolivia are 3-0 up against Vasco da Gama of Brazil in the third qualifying round.

That would be weird in itself, except Vasco won the first leg 4-0, with two goals in the last minute.

Football in the Americas may be lower quality than in Europe but results like this keep it very exciting.


Was looking at the odds for that tonight and Jorge Wilsterman were ridiculously short. Never touched it.

You’ll know better than me- I’ve currently got a bet on the Gremio v Independiente game. Is that their equivalent of the Super Cup, between Libertadores Cup winners and the Copa Sudamericana winners?
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Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:12 AM

18 minutes from the end Wilster get the equalizer. And then Vasco win on penalties, because of course they did.

Yes, the Super Cup is the same as its UEFA equivalent, and is also known as the 'Recopa' (the re- in Spanish being aggrandizing in Spanish, like calling it the 'Cuppest', loosely.) Ronaldinho'a old club Gremio (Portuguese for Guild) beats Independeniente on penalties (the former club of Juan Sebastian Veron. A mixed success at Man Utd but elsewhere, when on form, a joy to watch.)
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Posted 26 February 2018 - 09:06 PM

Speaking of Super Cups, China just had theirs, and Guangzhou Evergrande won their third consecutive one with a 4-1 win over Shanghai Shenhua.  Two Chinese and two Brazilian goalscorers for the victors. Freddy Guarin's equalizer not enough for Shanghai, who were playing at 'home' because that was the prearranged venue. Oddly enough the ground was barely two thirds full, probably because they knew they'd get horsed.

 

Evergrande are managed by Fabio Cannavaro and have the best support in the country, and an absolute ton of cash, but still, seven consecutive championships is impressive no matter how you slice it.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 01:05 AM

Tomorrow, kicking off one hour after our game, is the Soweto Derby between Orlando Pirates and Kaizer Chiefs. It's being played at the national stadium in Johannesburg itself instead of Orlando. That's because Orlando only allows 40,000, while Soccer City allows close to 80,000. Nonetheless, the move makes it a "home" game for Chiefs, although Pirates do play some other games there from time to time as well.

 

Barring a massive shock, they are both playing for second place. Mamelodi Sundowns are well clear at the top, but they bottled it last season as unfancied Wits* won the title by three points.
 
*formerly managed by Jimmy "Paisley Bastard" Bone.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 04:01 PM

Pirates won 3-1 in front of 86,000 (I thought the capacity was restricted due to safety issues but apparently not.) I didn't see the first half, obviously, but the second was all Pirates and they should have had more.


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Posted 04 March 2018 - 12:45 PM

Pretty shocking news about Davide Astori, only 31.
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Posted 04 March 2018 - 05:17 PM

Yep, shocking stuff, absolutely in the prime of his life. Very sad.
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Posted 04 March 2018 - 09:36 PM

Tomorrow, kicking off one hour after our game, is the Soweto Derby between Orlando Pirates and Kaizer Chiefs. It's being played at the national stadium in Johannesburg itself instead of Orlando. That's because Orlando only allows 40,000, while Soccer City allows close to 80,000. Nonetheless, the move makes it a "home" game for Chiefs, although Pirates do play some other games there from time to time as well.
 
Barring a massive shock, they are both playing for second place. Mamelodi Sundowns are well clear at the top, but they bottled it last season as unfancied Wits* won the title by three points.
 
*formerly managed by Jimmy "Paisley Bastard" Bone.


Hadn't seen or heard of him for years. I remember the Scotland-Italy game where those cheating bastards won and that shocking decision by the cheating bastard referee against Hutton late in the game, both Toby and Myself were going out of the ground (South Stand) and spotted a hospitality bar and went in for a beer. We had no problems getting served and there was an unedited feed of the game been shown on the TV, and we were sitting at a table next to Jimmy Bone watching it, all shocked and stunned at that decision.

Such was the shock of what just happened neither of us batted an eyelid of who else was there. In normal circumstances the issue of Morton-St.Mirren would have been on the agenda, but not even a mention of it.
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Posted 04 March 2018 - 10:11 PM

I had a bunch of mates over to the house that day to watch the game and it was just stunned silence combined with barely-contained rage. I'm actually ****ing seething all over again now that you've reminded me of it :lol:
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Posted 04 March 2018 - 10:15 PM

The Scottish Cafu was never the same after that IMO.
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 12:21 AM

True enough, he was a good servant though and I think there's a lot of revisionism about him from people who are convinced he was always terrible.

 

As long as we're making this a general football thread, it's a complete mind**** that Loic Remy is on loan at Getafe, the Spanish team whom I have followed for over a decade. His signing for Las Palmas was weird enough - that's quite a step down after Chelsea - but now he's had a fight with their coach and only Geta would take him.

 

They also now have Mathieu Flamini, without a club since his disastrous spell at Crystal Palace.

 

Both signings are utterly weird to me because Geta are miles clear of relegation and could frankly do without the Europa League distraction that they seem unlikely to get in any case. For a club that used to bring through hungry youngsters (Roberto Soldado, for one) to switch to this elephant's graveyard approach is odd to me.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 01:46 AM

True enough, he was a good servant though and I think there's a lot of revisionism about him from people who are convinced he was always terrible.
 
As long as we're making this a general football thread, it's a complete mind**** that Loic Remy is on loan at Getafe, the Spanish team whom I have followed for over a decade. His signing for Las Palmas was weird enough - that's quite a step down after Chelsea - but now he's had a fight with their coach and only Geta would take him.
 
They also now have Mathieu Flamini, without a club since his disastrous spell at Crystal Palace.
 
Both signings are utterly weird to me because Geta are miles clear of relegation and could frankly do without the Europa League distraction that they seem unlikely to get in any case. For a club that used to bring through hungry youngsters (Roberto Soldado, for one) to switch to this elephant's graveyard approach is odd to me.


Just out of interest, and a question that I often got asked about Morton - why do you support Getafe?
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 01:29 PM

I had a job related to Spanish football at the time (2006) and they just grabbed me. Play in blue, from an economically-depressed town near a major city... it was in the stars :D


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:17 PM

Pretty shocking news about Davide Astori, only 31.

 

https://www.theguard...ter-possibility


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 11:59 PM

Rampla Juniors of Uruguay utterly rinsing UTC Cajamarca of Peru 4-0 in the Sudamericana, making it 4-2 on aggregate.

 

If you thought Atletico Madrid's old ground was close to the river, or Arbroath were close to the shore, take a look at the hilariously-named Estadio Olimpico in Montevideo:

 

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:40 AM

Think arbroath would give that a run for its money tbh.
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Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:50 AM

Rampla Juniors of Uruguay utterly rinsing UTC Cajamarca of Peru 4-0 in the Sudamericana, making it 4-2 on aggregate.

If you thought Atletico Madrid's old ground was close to the river, or Arbroath were close to the shore, take a look at the hilariously-named Estadio Olimpico in Montevideo:

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Took them tonight, for no other reason than Dortmund and Lazio letting me down and I started chasing.

Good on them :).
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Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:51 AM

Took them tonight, for no other reason than Dortmund and Lazio letting me down and I started chasing.

Good on them :).


Saw the Dortmund highlights, they were utterly appalling.

Uruguayan clubs, like the national team, punch above their weight quite frequently.
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Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:54 AM

Saw the Dortmund highlights, they were utterly appalling.

Uruguayan clubs, like the national team, punch above their weight quite frequently.


That lot let me down against Augsburg last week too, this season’s Villareal, who drove me nuts last season.

I’ll be steering clear for a while.
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Posted 09 March 2018 - 01:20 AM

Sports gambling is illegal in Texas, except at race tracks (where it's only legal on horses) so I don't really bet except when I'm back in Europe, but if I did I'd have had money on Spurs, so I'm kind of glad.


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 03:47 PM

Was watching Club America against Club Leon this weekend and for the second half they had a female main commentator. (This was on Univision, a Spanish-language channel.) I can read Spanish perfectly well but listening to it is another story - because they speak very quickly I can only get around half of what they're talking about. With that qualification, I think she did extremely well, arguably better than the male commentator for the first half. I do wonder how the culturally Mexican audience will react to this, given that it's still quite a macho country (I work with a Mexican guy who calls the women in his department 'chicas', or girls, during meetings and conference calls, which an Anglo-American these days wouldn't generally do) but I'd happily listen to her commentate on a game again.

 

tl;dr, you are probably thinking. Well, the next post will be more interesting...


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 03:56 PM

PAOK-AEK in Thessaloniki yesterday. Skip to 1:36 if the video hasn't already done so:

 

https://youtu.be/eQyNb89qDvU?t=1m36s

 

Goal originally given, then the referee backtracks and disallows it (correctly) for offside.

 

And here's the aftermath:

 

 

Bearded fellow is PAOK's president, who was so incensed at the (again, correct) decision that he came onto the pitch, waved his players off, and challenged the officials. While doing this he took off his jacket to reveal that he had a holstered handgun. To be clear, open carry is legal in Greece and at no time did he produce or even touch the gun, but this managed to shock even the Greeks.

 

The Greek government has now suspended the league.

 

PAOK and AEK are distant rivals. Both are refugee clubs (the K is for Constantinople) founded by Greeks fleeing Asia Minor after Turkey took what is now Istanbul, and there's also the capital vs. second city dimension.


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 04:09 PM

He appears to be touching the gun/holster in the first minute of the video. 

 

Meanwhile, in France:

 

https://www.theguard...egation-ligue-1

 

Leaving the Helen Lovejoy-esque report to one side, this can be safely filed among the many examples of why 'the Cappielow boo boys' don't actually represent the most demanding or negative fanbase in world football, as shrill happy-clappers would have us all believe. 


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The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before..

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 04:18 PM

The still image just shows him with his hand slightly behind his back - it's telling that there's no moving image to that effect. I really don't think he went for it at any time or even really touched it. Grazed it, maybe. Not that I'm defending it. He had no need to take off his jacket. He's a 'businessman' of Russian descent so I'm not surprised that he carries a gun and has a bunch of bodyguards but there was no need for any of this.

 

France has had a real hooligan problem for years now and Lille are a traditionally major club in dire straits, so I'm not surprised to see this. Doing so after a 1-1 draw at home to a decent side like Montpellier is pretty funny, though.

 

I remember years ago PSG used to have hooligan groups fight each other, rather than the opposition. There was the largely white French Boulogne Boys and the largely Magrebhi Mystic Tigers.


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