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Well done Crawford, you've just publicly invited all our rivals to help themselves to our best players. Well played.

 

 

I very much doubt any manager would be avoiding contacting a player he'd like to sign simply because he has assumed they'll have an offer of a new deal on the table. As with Harkins and QotS, other teams will already be on the ball here. 

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Well done Crawford, you've just publicly invited all our rivals to help themselves to our best players. Well played.

Yep. Can only imagine their possible availablility was a complete mystery to clubs and agents until that statement was made.

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Well done Crawford, you've just publicly invited all our rivals to help themselves to our best players. Well played.

 

What was preventing them from doing this 30 minutes ago?

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The club's stance here is entirely correct. You run the risk of losing players and that's unfortunate, particularly for a player who had as good a season as Harkins, but it's by far the most sensible approach.

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And we stunk our way to 7th. Yes, the main culprit got his reward for that and was told to do one but the players are not entirely blameless. None of them are indispensable.

 

Some of the 'keep' lists posted were embarrassing. Yes, keep that many. If you want more of the same.

 

Yes, there are a few that would be a disappointing loss and would be really sorry to see them go. Harkins for me isn't even one of them.

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It is imperative that we get a new manager appointed promptly. I can understand not offering new contracts to every player where there is doubt that we would want to keep them, but Harkins?  IMHO an executive decision was needed there.  Typical Morton.  Never mind, we still have McHugh and Thomson...

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It is imperative that we get a new manager appointed promptly. I can understand not offering new contracts to every player where there is doubt that we would want to keep them, but Harkins? IMHO an executive decision was needed there. Typical Morton. Never mind, we still have McHugh and Thomson...

Why?

 

A high earner. Another year older, possibly slower, and might not fit in with the system the new manager wants to play (didn't even fit in with the system our previous manager wanted to play and signed him for).

 

Why should he have got specific special treatment. He wasn't 'that' good.

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It is imperative that we get a new manager appointed promptly. I can understand not offering new contracts to every player where there is doubt that we would want to keep them, but Harkins?  IMHO an executive decision was needed there.  Typical Morton.  Never mind, we still have McHugh and Thomson...

But Harkins didn't need to go. Like every other out of contract player he and his agent are free to speak to anyone they want including their present club. If he was keen to stay with us he could have said to any suitor who was keen on him that he wanted to take some time to think things through or as others have done that he wanted to have a wee holiday and then decide.

So either they made him a really great offer that he felt we couldn't/wouldn't match or he just wanted his future settled now so that he could relax and enjoy the summer break.

 

Either way he did a really good job with us and good luck to him except when he plays against us.

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Players are free to speak to other clubs as soon as their contract enters its final 6 months. The lengths of the contracts are announced when they are signed, so their availability is common knowledge. The statement is hardly showing our hand in a poker game.

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Last season's player of the player has been allowed to leave? Bad move by the club imo.

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Last season's player of the player has been allowed to leave? Bad move by the club imo.

Harkins surpassed expectations for sure, but a major reason why he got Player of the Season rested in our failings throughout the team - strikers who were either crocked or couldn't score, wide options that were mediocre at best for most of the season. If Lamie hadn't been both a centre-back - who rarely get such awards - and suffered a dip in form in the second half then he'd have walked it instead. The rest of our first teamers had average seasons at best, which is partly why we ended up 7th. It's not exactly the Ajax '95 side being broken up here then.

 

Our central midfield has been weaker and unbalanced ever since Duffy signed Harkins, though that's not of course the player's fault and he did better under Duffyball conditions than his rivals for the same position. But Lindsay has still been a huge absence in there and we've rarely controlled games. In order to build a credible team we need to upgrade in central midfield and Murdoch's the one that the club obviously has to try and keep. I doubt Harkins would have been too happy as a squad option at this stage in his career, so a move elsewhere is ultimately the best option for everyone.

The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before..

 

So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are

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Last season's player of the player has been allowed to leave? Bad move by the club imo.

Harsh reality of the contract situation. The player wasn't allowed to leave, he left because for whatever reason he wanted to and was free to do so.

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Sad to see Harkins go, he obviously wanted to secure he plays at this level next season as quickly as possible, but I’d be pretty confident the new man in charge would have offered our player of the year a new contract, so for me he jumped ship a bit too quickly. Even so , I can understand and good luck to him, except against us.

Quite refreshing to hear another update from the chairman so soon after jeebsy leaving to explain the situation too, and would say the club have made the right choice in regards to player contracts.

John Sutton seems a good appointment for the development squad too. More good communication from Jonathon Mitchell with his interview.

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Sad to see Harkins go, he obviously wanted to secure he plays at this level next season as quickly as possible, but I’d be pretty confident the new man in charge would have offered our player of the year a new contract, so for me he jumped ship a bit too quickly. Even so , I can understand and good luck to him, except against us.

Quite refreshing to hear another update from the chairman so soon after jeebsy leaving to explain the situation too, and would say the club have made the right choice in regards to player contracts.

John Sutton seems a good appointment for the development squad too. More good communication from Jonathon Mitchell with his interview.

That Paisley bastard shouldn’t be anywhere near our club.
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He is 23 in July so not sure if that means he can walk away for nothing then.

 

Personally hope he stays!

 

The definition is 'season of his 23rd birthday', and if his birthday falls before the season technically starts then according to FIFA 'player passport' rules it'll be next season that counts. So in other words if we offer him the same or better deal we are entitled to FIFA compensation.

 

The FA in England has a bunch of rules on top of the FIFA bare minimum and I think the SFA does too, but I don't know exactly how they work. The point is that at an absolute minimum we'll get statutory compensation via the FIFA mechanism.

 

This isn't exactly related but I found it interesting - the dark side of the compensation system: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/21/youth-players-left-scrapheap-thanks-exorbitant-compensation/

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Our supporters surprise even me at times but the Facebook crowd jumping on the club over the Harkins thing really are mental. We’ve lost Gary Harkins, not Xavi, he could’ve waited, he didn’t, calm doon.

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Our supporters surprise even me at times but the Facebook crowd jumping on the club over the Harkins thing really are mental. We’ve lost Gary Harkins, not Xavi, he could’ve waited, he didn’t, calm doon.

Their inability to say what the club should have done differently is telling.

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Their inability to say what the club should have done differently is telling.

 

A couple of have stuck their neck out and said the club should put deals on the table for Harkins, Lamie, and Murdoch. I can think of worse ideas to be sure, but I also think letting the new manager select his squad is a better idea.

 

If we had a Director of Football it would be a no-brainer, but we don't, we use the manager model (as opposed to the head coach model) and there's no point in undermining the new guy's recruitment except when we have compensation to protect.

 

It is a gamble, the club's approach, but so too would taking on squad management at the time they're trying to find a new manager.

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Harkins is a quality player who has had a good season, but he's not going to suit every manager's style. It could be the case that the new manager would have loved to have had Harkins in there, but it's not a no brainer if the new manager wants a quicker, higher tempo midfield.

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