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You may not agree with a lot of peoples politics MJ(Poll Tax,Cash for Questions,Mps expenses etc etc)however there are some extreme beliefs that can become very dangerous indeed.Should

we defeat these extreme views by all costs.(Nazi,Fascists,Muslim extremists, Catholic extremists,Black supremists,Hard Line communists, fundamentalists of all religions etc etc) or just sit back and do nothing much at all.

One man's meat is another's poisson! :blush:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they pretend to befriend you, then you win!

 

YER BARD

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One man's meat is another's poisson! :blush:

 

Not if the poisson becomes extinct.

If a writer of prose knows enough of what he is writing about he may omit things that he knows and the reader, if the writer is writing truly enough, will have a feeling of those things as strongly as though the writer had stated them. The dignity of movement of an ice-berg is due to only one-eighth of it being above water. A writer who omits things because he does not know them only makes hollow places in his writing.

—Ernest Hemingway

 

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One man's meat is another's poisson! :blush:

 

Properly sourced from conserved fisheries I hope.

 


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences."

The goal of Socialism is Communism- Lenin

 

Je ne suis pas Marxiste : K Marx

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It should make for essential viewing. I liked Douglas Murray's (Director Of The Centre for Social Cohesion) take on it:

 

" Nick Griffin represents a fascist party which can now claim to speak for almost a million voters. This shows, among other things, that the Unite Against Fascism style of left wing anti-BNP tactics has failed. On Thursday night UAF will hold a demo outside the BBC while the fascist Griffin sits inside on the panel.

 

We have to rethink the way in which we critique the BNP. Their ideas divide into the laughable and the racist. Thursday night should provide an opportunity to show this, but I suspect it won't.

Politicians on the panel will spend their time running to the opposite end of the see-saw to Griffin. The only way to take the BNP apart is to explain that there are legitimate reasons for people in the UK to be worried about immigration and the future of our country but that Griffin is a racist and exactly the wrong person to deal with that.

 

Our government and the opposition - epitomised by fellow panellists Jack Straw and Sayeeda Warsi - have spent years cosying up to Islamic fascists. Now they have the chance to meet the nativist variety this has given succour to. I only wish they knew how to destroy what they have helped create".

 

Short answer is I think we need better politicians, with better policies, to slay this monster.

 

Interesting. I was just reading that piece. Completely agree. There's a lot in The Limpwristdependent I agree with today including Dominic Lawson's article.

 

What's Davie McArthur got to do with this?

 

What? :blink:

 

MARTY OUT!!!!!

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You'd be surprised. Govan has returned a Scottish Nationalist MP to the Westminster parliament twice in times when it wasn't considered the norm to vote for them, and when the rest of Scotland acted like drones who put an "X" next to the Labour candidate through force of habit.

 

Govan also returned the first ever Muslim MP to the Westminster Parliament, albeit aided by gerimandering of the Boundaries Commission who ensured that several districts which were traditionally Govan were given to neighbouring constituencies, thus splitting the SNP vote and destroying the thorn in the side for the Labour Party in Scotland.

 

Govan isn't full of racist neanderthals loyal to the crown as you'd like to portray, in fact i doubt if you've ever been there before yet you wish to make assumptions condemning the place.

 

Yes, perhaps I should more accurately have said Ibrox instead of Govan - I was alluding to an element of the Rangers support of course. As for never having been there, I was in fact born in Govan, at the Southern General Hospital.

"Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it."

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If he had bad eyseight and a hint of Aspergers syndrome no doubt you could have a field day. Naw, best to stick to reasoned arguments I think.

 

Actually, Nick Griffin is blind in one eye. Hmm, has anyone ever seen him and Gordon Brown in the same room? And do you not remember those photos of Gordon Brown with some swastikas behind him? Surely not....?

"Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it."

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Actually, Nick Griffin is blind in one eye. Hmm, has anyone ever seen him and Gordon Brown in the same room? And do you not remember those photos of Gordon Brown with some swastikas behind him? Surely not....?

 

You really do revel in that stuff, don't you.

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Interesting. I was just reading that piece. Completely agree. There's a lot in The Limpwristdependent I agree with today including Dominic Lawson's article.

 

I liked Lawson's piece too. He's a lot better when he refrains from pornography. :P

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Yes, perhaps I should more accurately have said Ibrox instead of Govan - I was alluding to an element of the Rangers support of course.

 

I reckon Govan is pretty much 50/50 in terms of Old Firm Allegiances.

 

 

As for never having been there, I was in fact born in Govan, at the Southern General Hospital.

 

I dont think they'll be keen to accept responsibility for you.

 

:lol: :lol:

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I thought the Polanski piece was good journalism. He made it very clear why Polanski should be behind bars.

Then we'll agree on the substance but not on the detail. :)

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Actually, Nick Griffin is blind in one eye. Hmm, has anyone ever seen him and Gordon Brown in the same room? And do you not remember those photos of Gordon Brown with some swastikas behind him? Surely not....?

No - they don't see eye to eye.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they pretend to befriend you, then you win!

 

YER BARD

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A pesky pest in New Zealand

 

There are about 70 million poissums in New Zealand - that's about 20 per person!

 

Would you want 20 poissums in your backyard?!?

 

Depends if they were of white anglo saxon poissum origin or a iraqi muslim poissum coming over here stealing oor burds, wur jobs etc etc. Sounds a bit fishy

to me. u should ask Alex Salmon. :lol:

If a writer of prose knows enough of what he is writing about he may omit things that he knows and the reader, if the writer is writing truly enough, will have a feeling of those things as strongly as though the writer had stated them. The dignity of movement of an ice-berg is due to only one-eighth of it being above water. A writer who omits things because he does not know them only makes hollow places in his writing.

—Ernest Hemingway

 

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Ric Bailey, the BBC’s chief political adviser, said the corporation would have been breaking its charter if it had not treated the BNP with impartiality.

 

The decision to have Mr Griffin on Question Time was based on the party’s success in June’s European elections, at which it won more than 940,000 votes and two seats, he said.

 

“We absolutely stand by that judgment, even though there’s obviously been a lot of controversy about it,” he added.

 

Good grief, and I thought it was just a wee voice crying in the wilderness - maybe all those people are trying to say something! :unsure:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they pretend to befriend you, then you win!

 

YER BARD

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Ric Bailey, the BBC’s chief political adviser, said the corporation would have been breaking its charter if it had not treated the BNP with impartiality.

 

The decision to have Mr Griffin on Question Time was based on the party’s success in June’s European elections, at which it won more than 940,000 votes and two seats, he said.

 

“We absolutely stand by that judgment, even though there’s obviously been a lot of controversy about it,” he added.

 

Good grief, and I thought it was just a wee voice crying in the wilderness - maybe all those people are trying to say something! :unsure:

 

Or maybe there are nearly one million idiots with the vote.

MARTY OUT!!!!!

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